I also loved that they managed to make Harvey MORE tragic than he's been in the comics (we'll not speak of Tommy Lee Jones - a great actor given a terrible, TV Batman version of the character to play). I didn't think they could top Harvey in Dark Knight Returns for tragic, but they did. I believe his character would have gone off the rails the exact same way even if he hadn't been disfigured (and there's an understatement of a description), as opposed to the comics where that's the source of his insanity.
Handsome brooding vampire guy has to swoop in all sensitive mouth and overhanging forehead. How 'bout leaving some scraps for the homely-looking fellows who don't turn evil when they get some?
Doyle ,'Life of the Party'
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A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 18, 2008 10:24:05 am PDT #7168 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Polter-Cow - Jul 18, 2008 10:25:55 am PDT #7169 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
But when the Joker speaks, you can understand how(ish) he got there -- that the things making you unhappy are all fears of things that exist only in your head, and all you need to do to be free is to let them go.
Well, Heath did read The Killing Joke. Which I re-read yesterday. Man, I'm really looking forward to seeing the movie tonight.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 18, 2008 10:29:04 am PDT #7170 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Re Jess' whitefont, I'm dissapointed we didn't get to hear what version of the story he was going to tell to Bats at the end when he got interupted by those wrist blades.
Jessica - Jul 18, 2008 10:30:09 am PDT #7171 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Me too! Stupid Batman, always punching people right in the middle of their tragic monologues.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 18, 2008 10:34:19 am PDT #7172 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Me too!
It would have been too on the nose, but I would have loved to see Bats reaction if it was a story about how his parents were killed in a robbery and he got injured trying to defend them.
Sean K - Jul 18, 2008 10:37:09 am PDT #7173 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Re Frank's white font about Harvey Dent --
It's almost a shame that both Harvey and the Joker were in the same movie, because Aaron's performance was quite magnificent, too.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 18, 2008 10:44:11 am PDT #7174 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
It's almost a shame that both Harvey and the Joker were in the same movie, because Aaron's performance was quite magnificent, too.
I know exactly what you mean. Harvey is pretty much the protagonist of the movie, and the change to Two-face seemed too hurried. Given the plot turn about preserving Harvey's good name for the sake of Gotham, I can see why they had to go the way they did.
I'm wondering if there are any insteresting deleted scenes out there, because I think that was the fastest 2 1/2 hour movie I've ever seen, and considering I was at a midnight show, I didn't once try to check the time or have any inclinations to hit the bathroom. The pace was relentless.
le nubian - Jul 18, 2008 10:51:58 am PDT #7175 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Franken,
I thought the original movie came in at over 3 hours. So I'm hoping for a director's cut...
Frankenbuddha - Jul 18, 2008 11:01:21 am PDT #7176 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I thought the original movie came in at over 3 hours. So I'm hoping for a director's cut...
The fact that they got away with the PG-13 on this...doesn't astonish me (I mean really, there's no way Warners was going to let it be an R), but I suspect this was a toned down version. So I wouldn't be surprised to see some stuff put back that was originally part of a first final cut. I'm definitely hoping, like you are, that there's also stuff that was cut for time that will go back in as well.
Jessica - Jul 18, 2008 11:03:43 am PDT #7177 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Oh good god no - I can think of at least 20 minutes of this movie that could have been cut out.