Willow: Yikes. Imagine the things...Buffy: No! Stop imagining! All of you! Xander: Already got the visual.

'Dirty Girls'


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DavidS - Jul 14, 2008 9:19:39 pm PDT #7045 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think AH is overrated as an actress. There. I said it. I feel bad.

Let's hear it. What are her weaknesses in your estimation?


Anne W. - Jul 15, 2008 1:31:55 am PDT #7046 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

For instance, Millennium was a better show than the X-Files (at least for the first two seasons, and the third was far less damaging retroactively than the last few seasons of X-Files).

loves Frank. And Amy.


Miracleman - Jul 15, 2008 3:30:12 am PDT #7047 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Yep. I'm one of those. Drew doesn't read or post in this thread, so I'll just out him now and point out that he's one, too.

I, too, love Family Guy. There are two things that make me laugh and laugh and laugh about it: 1) How utterly *wrong* they are and 2) The face Aims makes when she sees how utterly *wrong* they are.

Heretical TV...I agree Millennium was the better show, but feel it lost its way partway through season two. I disliked the first three seasons of Star Trek: DS9 and hated with a fiery passion Star Trek: Voyager after about halfway through season one.

I think we can all agree that Enterprise sucked.

Tried to watch Lost, found it boring as fuck, missed a few eps and realized that I was now completely befuddled *and* bored.

Never got into 24.

Took me the longest time to watch CSI because I always thought that William Petersen had the charisma of moldy bread. Once I started watching, I loved it. And then it bored me. So I guess I'm over it now.


sumi - Jul 15, 2008 4:11:40 am PDT #7048 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

A ful HPHPB trailer is going to run with The Mummy.

(I'm sad: the whole plan to watch TDK on a midnight show on IMAX went kerbluie. I will instead attempt to see it on Friday afternoon at a regular theater.)


bon bon - Jul 15, 2008 4:29:46 am PDT #7049 of 10000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I think AH is overrated as an actress. There. I said it. I feel bad.

I don't think her performance in Buffy is overrated, since it's written to her skills. But her shrill take in HIMYM, which is getting into baby Monica Gellar territory, has made me revise my opinion or her chops both comic and dramatic.


tiggy - Jul 15, 2008 5:12:47 am PDT #7050 of 10000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Aly's character is my least favorite on HIMYM and it's entirely because she spends much of the episodes talking in that cutesy, baby talk voice that drives. me. bananas.


JZ - Jul 15, 2008 5:47:05 am PDT #7051 of 10000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I don't think her performance in Buffy is overrated, since it's written to her skills.

she spends much of the episodes talking in that cutesy, baby talk voice that drives. me. bananas.

As a (mostly former) actor, the conclusion I'm drawing from this (and from listening to the commentary tracks on the HIMYM DVDs) is that she actually has a ton of range, but she needs to be with really good directors.

On Buffy she had writers who wrote to her strengths, but she also had good, thoughtful directors who both thought the world of her and didn't hesitate to push her hard when they thought the scene demanded it.

On HIMYM, everyone thinks the world of her and thinks she's completely adorable as is and I didn't get the feeling from the commentary tracks that anyone demands much from her at all -- the directors and writers say over and over how adorable and great she is, and that they love making sure that she says "Bitch" at least once per episode because it cracks them up.

If any of her current directors bothered to say, "Aly, too shrill, push harder, don't rely on the cute," she could easily make the adjustment. But nobody's saying that--which isn't her fault; they're the directors, that's their fucking job.

My HIMYM heresy is that, much as I love NPH and love the Barney revelation at the end of S3, Barney in general is really problematic and unpleasant and almost derails the show for me. I actually think both Robin and Lily are pretty great characters (Aly's just under-directed), but 99% of the Barney storylines make me question what the showrunners really think of women. It bugs me that I can't just shut down that part of my brain and enjoy the funny, but...well, I can't.

There. I'm a filthy humorless feminist heretic. Prepare the stake; I'm ready to be burnt.


Sean K - Jul 15, 2008 6:30:00 am PDT #7052 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

For instance, Millennium was a better show than the X-Files

Liked Millennium better myself. My all time favorite episode was the "Selfosophy" episode, utterly skewering Scientology (and featuring David Duchovny in a few background poster cameos as a Cruise/Travolta).


P.M. Marc - Jul 15, 2008 6:56:14 am PDT #7053 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I liked S3, but thought 1 & 2 relied too heavily on shock value. But S3 was awesome.

AH depends too heavily on cute. She is prone to simpering. She would have made a good Jane in Coupling. I have seen her in a lot of things, and agree that she does have range that she doesn't use, but it has been a good while since I saw it in action.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 15, 2008 6:57:16 am PDT #7054 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

"Selfosophy" episode, utterly skewering Scientology (and featuring David Duchovny in a few background poster cameos as a Cruise/Travolta).

Mr. Happy-go-lucky!

Also known as the Jose Chung Millenium episode.