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JZ - Jul 15, 2008 5:47:05 am PDT #7051 of 10000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I don't think her performance in Buffy is overrated, since it's written to her skills.

she spends much of the episodes talking in that cutesy, baby talk voice that drives. me. bananas.

As a (mostly former) actor, the conclusion I'm drawing from this (and from listening to the commentary tracks on the HIMYM DVDs) is that she actually has a ton of range, but she needs to be with really good directors.

On Buffy she had writers who wrote to her strengths, but she also had good, thoughtful directors who both thought the world of her and didn't hesitate to push her hard when they thought the scene demanded it.

On HIMYM, everyone thinks the world of her and thinks she's completely adorable as is and I didn't get the feeling from the commentary tracks that anyone demands much from her at all -- the directors and writers say over and over how adorable and great she is, and that they love making sure that she says "Bitch" at least once per episode because it cracks them up.

If any of her current directors bothered to say, "Aly, too shrill, push harder, don't rely on the cute," she could easily make the adjustment. But nobody's saying that--which isn't her fault; they're the directors, that's their fucking job.

My HIMYM heresy is that, much as I love NPH and love the Barney revelation at the end of S3, Barney in general is really problematic and unpleasant and almost derails the show for me. I actually think both Robin and Lily are pretty great characters (Aly's just under-directed), but 99% of the Barney storylines make me question what the showrunners really think of women. It bugs me that I can't just shut down that part of my brain and enjoy the funny, but...well, I can't.

There. I'm a filthy humorless feminist heretic. Prepare the stake; I'm ready to be burnt.


Sean K - Jul 15, 2008 6:30:00 am PDT #7052 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

For instance, Millennium was a better show than the X-Files

Liked Millennium better myself. My all time favorite episode was the "Selfosophy" episode, utterly skewering Scientology (and featuring David Duchovny in a few background poster cameos as a Cruise/Travolta).


P.M. Marc - Jul 15, 2008 6:56:14 am PDT #7053 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I liked S3, but thought 1 & 2 relied too heavily on shock value. But S3 was awesome.

AH depends too heavily on cute. She is prone to simpering. She would have made a good Jane in Coupling. I have seen her in a lot of things, and agree that she does have range that she doesn't use, but it has been a good while since I saw it in action.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 15, 2008 6:57:16 am PDT #7054 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

"Selfosophy" episode, utterly skewering Scientology (and featuring David Duchovny in a few background poster cameos as a Cruise/Travolta).

Mr. Happy-go-lucky!

Also known as the Jose Chung Millenium episode.


DavidS - Jul 15, 2008 7:28:49 am PDT #7055 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

AH depends too heavily on cute.

I wouldn't disagree with that. But I do think the showrunners on HIMYM have contributed to that. Seeing the first season episodes it was surprising to see how much more focus her character had. She's really been allowed to drift. I think they're just letting Lilly be Aly, which is a mistake.

I have seen her in a lot of things, and agree that she does have range that she doesn't use, but it has been a good while since I saw it in action.

I'd agree with that too. She needs somebody to push her because she won't challenge herself. Unlike SMG who has taken some wacky indie movie chances aside from her more commercial Scooby Doo fare.

It kind of comes down to my earlier assessment that it was ballsy of SMG to rise to the challenge of the musical and wussy of AH to beg off. Nick Brendon also got points for stepping up to the musical and nailing it, without any background in singing or dancing (and partnered with Emma, who clearly has a lot of experience there.)

However, one of Aly's virtues as an actor is that while her tendency is to cute it up, if pushed she will go to the dark, unlikeable parts of a character. Some actors (Marsters comes to mind) will never give up the "please love me" impulse in his acting.


Miracleman - Jul 15, 2008 7:35:36 am PDT #7056 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

"Selfosophy" episode, utterly skewering Scientology (and featuring David Duchovny in a few background poster cameos as a Cruise/Travolta).

"All right! My gun jammed!"

and

"Hey, don't try it! You'll never make it!"

"Not with that negative attitude I won't!" (jumps, misses, dies.)

edited to fix quotes


Frankenbuddha - Jul 15, 2008 7:43:12 am PDT #7057 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The episode also took a big swing at Deepak Chopra as well (the Selfosophy guru was named somethingsomething Gupta).


Miracleman - Jul 15, 2008 7:44:02 am PDT #7058 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Juggernaut Onan Gupta


Kathy A - Jul 15, 2008 7:57:35 am PDT #7059 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

James Berardinelli has his Dark Knight review online, and it's four stars. He is not one to hand out four stars easily--since 2005, he's given only three other four-star reviews.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 15, 2008 8:39:30 am PDT #7060 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Didn't the Yuri Geller-esque phony psychic from "Clyde Buckman's Final Repose" also make a reappearance?