Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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DavidS - Jan 02, 2008 8:18:24 pm PST #3171 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

the prison scene

Killed me. The back story of the "girl in the next cell" made me cry and cry.

That was one of the most powerful scenes in all of my comics experience.

GC, did you see that I figured out that whole scene was based on a real event during WWII that happened in the Nazi occupied Channel Islands?

Yep. There was a woman named Claude Cahun who was involved with the Surrealists in Paris. And her story is basically the story of Valerie though hers is actually more interesting.

But like Moore's character she was a lesbian who lived with her lover, and was captured by the Nazis and imprisoned and threatened with death many times over and then released suddenly without much reason.

But cooler still is that she and her lover carried out a propaganda war against the Nazis during their occupation (which is why she was arrested). They'd slip their notes into the pockets of German soldiers telling them to reject Fascism and reclaim their humanity.

I'm certain Moore used her as the basis for that story. She wrote her entire story down on a piece of toilet paper when she felt she was going to be executed - exactly as in the comic.

1940-1944 - Invasion of Jersey by the Germans (1 July 1940). From the arrival of the occupation, they opt for a "resistance active". For four years she conducted, without cease, with the complicity of Suzanne, activities of counter-propaganda and of demoralisation towards the occupying troops. Production of tracts, subversion of pro-Nazi magazines, photomontages. In March 1943 she underwent her first interrogation. On 25 July 1944 Claude and Suzanne are arrested by the Gestapo and put in military prison. Attempt at suicide. "La Rocquaise" is largely requisitionned, ransacked (furniture removed, libraries dispersed, archives - notably photographic - partly destroyed). On 16 November 1944 they are condemned to death by the German court martial.

1945 - They benefit, in February 1945, from a stay of execution of the sentence. A transfer to Germany is envisaged... But they must wait for surrender, 8 May 1945, to be freed from the St Helier prison... In July, Claude re-establishes contact with André Breton, who is still in New York. She takes to renewing her friends "d'avant-gueree" [pre-war]. She writes long letters, which are variations on her experience during these four years, to Jean Legrand, André Breton, Gaston Ferdière, Jacques B. Brunius, Henri Michaux... But, very much tried by her imprisonment, her health is profoundly altered.


Glamcookie - Jan 02, 2008 8:59:33 pm PST #3172 of 10000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Wow. How horribly sad. And people wonder why I was paranoid about registering as domestic partners. They can round you up!


BigDuluth - Jan 02, 2008 9:05:47 pm PST #3173 of 10000
"I am the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world"

GC do you get any benefits registering as dp's?


DavidS - Jan 02, 2008 9:08:25 pm PST #3174 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Wow. How horribly sad.

You need to read her whole story. The end is sad, but she and Suzanne were so brave in their resistance actions. And she had a very interesting creative life.


Glamcookie - Jan 02, 2008 9:40:53 pm PST #3175 of 10000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

GC do you get any benefits registering as dp's?

Yes, that's why we went ahead with it. GF is on my health insurance and we have more rights in regard to health and property issues, too. I still sometimes get paranoid about it in these Dubya times.

I will read the whole story, Hec. Sounds really fascinating.


Fay - Jan 03, 2008 3:20:56 am PST #3176 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Next to the unforgiveable bastardization of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, the stupid tacked-on romance subplot of V for V was barely a blip.

God, yes. This.

shudders

Also, for comics in general, I watched Superman Returns last night, which was so hokey and terrible and anvillicious that I longed for the relative subtlety of V for V.

And yet Superman Returns was still several zillion times less offensive and angry-making than X3.

Oh, Brian Singer. What were you thinking?


Frankenbuddha - Jan 03, 2008 3:31:21 am PST #3177 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Oh, Brian Singer. What were you thinking?

That he was glad he hadn't made the third X-Men movie?


Hayden - Jan 03, 2008 6:32:24 am PST #3178 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Maybe he was upset that the script didn't call for Jean Gray to make more Jesus poses.


sumi - Jan 03, 2008 9:42:47 am PST #3179 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Speed Racer!!


Typo Boy - Jan 03, 2008 10:31:12 am PST #3180 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Live action? just no...

signed way too attached to certain childhood memories.

The only anime I'd less want to see live action is "Amazing three"

Spacemen with a mission You must make a very big decision
With your solar bomb you could destroy us,
Or save the world or save the world
Amazing three! Amazing three! Amazing three!