No. And yes. It's always sudden.

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Gris - Dec 30, 2007 5:42:38 am PST #3084 of 10000
Hey. New board.

Typo Boy, I found a LJ post with lots of Johanna YouTube links from people with noticeably more normal voices than the girl in the movie, if you want to wash her sound out of your ear (it also includes several videos of "Kiss Me", one of the more sadly cut songs) [link]


Typo Boy - Dec 30, 2007 7:20:35 am PST #3085 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Thanks Gris. We had a local Sweeney Todd production . A local small Theater owner, Jeff Kingsbury, recruited a Tony winner to play Sweeney, but filled out the rest of the cast with local talent - recruiting from college programs, church choirs, amateur groups and what have you. And it was gorgeous. I saw the original production with Angela Lansbury, and I would swear it was the equal of it; musical perfect, great acting; Ok the set wasn't quite up to a broadway budget, but still amazingly good. So I was already braced against being scarred by the movie production. The play version I saw before totally kept it from sticking, and may have made me a bit harsher than I would otherwise. I took two friends to see it who I thought would appreciate the dark humor. And not only did they hate the movie as much as I did; they now can't believe that the play could possibly be any good.


Scrappy - Dec 30, 2007 7:29:01 am PST #3086 of 10000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Saw There Will be Blood last night. Very strong, very long. As we were leaving at the end of the 2 hours and 40 minutes, I announced to my companions that the next film would be "there will be going to the ladies room" which made the ushers we were walking by laugh.

I recommend the film. DDL was terrific and there are some INCREDIBLE scenes. Paul Dano holds his own with DDL and really gives a career-making performance. It's also gorgeous--PT Anderson has a wonderful cinematic eye as a director. Like others in the thread, I thought the end was the weakest thin in the film. It felt tacked on and the tone was off.


Sean K - Dec 30, 2007 7:59:04 am PST #3087 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

My biggest issue is the idea that good Christians should never, ever hear anything that challenges their beliefs.

Yeah, this sort of thing bugs me a lot. There's quite a large group of Christians for whom my saying "I don't believe" is very dangerous and threatening. Which only makes me think that particular strain of faith isn't terribly strong or resilient, and that maybe G-d wants something a little tougher than that.

Just an outsider's opinion, of course....


§ ita § - Dec 30, 2007 8:04:25 am PST #3088 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Pullman's interview's make me like him even less. I felt he was going there, so I sought out more information, but he just seemed so damned smug all the time it made it worse.


Kate P. - Dec 30, 2007 8:24:46 am PST #3089 of 10000
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Saw Sweeney Todd with my mom, who LOVED it. I didn't love it -- I thought JD's and HBC's voices in particular weren't strong enough to carry the songs fully. But I did enjoy it, the darkness and the singing and what little humor remained from the show. I appreciated that the blood was so un-blood-like, all bright red and viscous and syrupy; that made it easier for me to handle the extreme goriness, because it was so clearly fake. I was grossed out by the bodies hitting the cellar floor, like several other people mentioned -- that was pretty disturbing. And I thought "By the Sea" was the best bit in the whole movie.


Typo Boy - Dec 30, 2007 8:44:32 am PST #3090 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And I thought "By the Sea" was the best bit in the whole movie.

But they cut out the best joke in the song, one that revealed something key about Sweeney.


Kate P. - Dec 30, 2007 8:47:17 am PST #3091 of 10000
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Really? Care to whitefont? My memories of the stage show are dim.


Typo Boy - Dec 30, 2007 8:51:03 am PST #3092 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

OK - the joke whitefonted:

When she was singing about how good life would be, Mrs. Lovett had the line she sang about taking in guests, and then sang: "Now and then you can do the guest in". At which point, Sweeney, who had been just nodding distractedly through the whole thing suddenly perked up. Maybe this "by the sea thing" would be worth considering says the expression on his face. Which also reveals that aside from the whole "driven mad by injustice" thing, Sweeney really really enjoys killing.


Kate P. - Dec 30, 2007 10:02:50 am PST #3093 of 10000
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Heh. I wonder why they took that out?