Also, yay on new thread and esp. new thread name!!!!
Mal: That's not what I saw. You like to tell me what really happened? Book: I surely would. And maybe someday I will.
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Frankenbuddha - Jul 09, 2007 8:06:18 am PDT #13 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Nutty - Jul 09, 2007 8:32:41 am PDT #14 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Matt Damon kick some ass.
As I said at the time, Dude beat me up with a back issue of Cosmo!! I'll never live this down!
That final car chase in #2 was indeed very jittery, and although it didn't make me nauseated, it made it almost impossible for me to assemble visual images into a coherent narrative. Like, it was all pure raw experience and absolutely no idea what was going on. Which is probably a bad thing.
Tom Scola - Jul 09, 2007 8:41:46 am PDT #15 of 10000
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500
Dude beat me up with a back issue of Cosmo!!
"Are you Jason Bourne's bitch? Huh? Are you? Take this Cosmo quiz!"
§ ita § - Jul 09, 2007 8:43:36 am PDT #16 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
it was all pure raw experience and absolutely no idea what was going on. Which is probably a bad thing.
I see it as a possibly desirable goal of the storyteller. Why wouldn't it be? Pure raw experience has its place.
Jessica - Jul 09, 2007 8:54:56 am PDT #17 of 10000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Oy.
Nutty - Jul 09, 2007 9:01:26 am PDT #18 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I see it as a possibly desirable goal of the storyteller. Why wouldn't it be? Pure raw experience has its place.
I suppose so, but, at the end of a film that had been narratively coherent up to that point (or relatively so, by Hollywood standards)? Kind of a "one of these things is not like the other" experience.
The upshot of the chase sequence, as with other sequences in the movie, is to showcase Bourne's awesome skills of divergent thinking and creative mis-use of everyday objects. When I can't tell what's going on, how am I to tell he's being creative, and it's not just an accidental splicing of film?
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 09, 2007 9:05:55 am PDT #19 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Oy.
I have to give the reviewer credit for typing that long a piece one-handed.
§ ita § - Jul 09, 2007 9:07:37 am PDT #20 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Jessica, my response to that is "Oh, fuck off. Welcome to being a minority. Please keep up."
Okay, I'm a bit snappish, but you can read most anything into anything, and he's not revealing much other than his own issues by doing so.
When I can't tell what's going on, how am I to tell he's being creative, and it's not just an accidental splicing of film?
Dunno. I didn't have any problem with it. I was just surprised to see a devaluation of conveying raw experience. Some storytellers should be so lucky. Hell, more should.
Hayden - Jul 09, 2007 9:13:47 am PDT #21 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
This post may not be top ten, but it is old enough to drink.
SailAweigh - Jul 09, 2007 9:32:43 am PDT #22 of 10000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
I can't say as I had a problem with the previous Bourne movies. All I thought was that if you were going to make any movies out of Ludlum books, those would be the best choice. I'm looking forward to that one and to Ratatouille. We'll see which one I can talk my dad and/or my nephew into going to see.