Can we maybe vote on the whole murdering people issue?

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Sue - Sep 06, 2007 7:52:59 am PDT #1267 of 10000
hip deep in pie

Longer version, I've experienced similar situations with these two before, and they basically don't give a flying f***. They basically manipulate the situations into "oh look, she's so serious with that giant stick up her butt. We're not being annoying and rude and inconsiderate, you just have no sense of humor".

See, these are the kind of people I don't go to movies with anymore.


JZ - Sep 06, 2007 8:07:28 am PDT #1268 of 10000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Ugh, what a totally shitty birthday present! Why do people need to be such assfaces? If we lived in the same city, I'd totally see it with you and be beautifully sober and decorously silent throughout (except for possible gasps during the suspenseful moments or the occasional very tiny whimper when Matt Damon flexes his arm muscles).

In other related news, I started reading the books, and MY GOD! I've read bad fanfiction that was better. The characters speaking their thoughts out loud and the romance that came out of nowhere (besides all the references to Marie's heaving breasts and how close they were pressed together as Bourne smacks her around), the insipid dialogue and "Oh, my darling!"s. It's a bodice-rippper, for real!

My sister! I staggered through the first book and gave up just three chapters into the second, and it felt SO DAMN GOOD to stop.


Juliebird - Sep 06, 2007 8:08:08 am PDT #1269 of 10000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

See, these are the kind of people I don't go to movies with anymore.

I know now not to risk it anymore with those two. The girlfriend was a new factor in the movie-going experience. Looking back, I shoulda known better.

I went to see Cold Mountain with a now-ex-BF, and in the first ten minutes he turned to me and said, "So what do you think of the movie so far?" as if he fully expected to carry out an analytical conversation as the movie was in progress.


lisah - Sep 06, 2007 8:10:25 am PDT #1270 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

I have a friend who is a movie talker and the last time I went to a movie with her (HP5) I was like, "Okay, love you but not sitting near you because you talk and it bugs." She was totally cool with it because, well, she has a normal sense of humor about herself. (and she's really not that bad of a movie talker)

I considered getting up and simply moving to another seat, but then of course I'd face the consequences long after the movie was over.

uh, I'm thinking if one of the consequences is these people not wanting to go to movies with you that maybe would be a good thing!


Juliebird - Sep 06, 2007 8:21:40 am PDT #1271 of 10000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

JZ! Oh, how we could gasp and whimper together (dirty!) over Matt Damon's flexing muscles and manpain!

My sister! I staggered through the first book and gave up just three chapters into the second, and it felt SO DAMN GOOD to stop.

I'd have stopped reading the book, but I've begun enjoying updating my mother on how awful it is. It's also poetic that the binding came undone and the book is falling apart as I read it. I've never read a book where I enjoyed stopping. I've always read to the end and then wished I hadn't.

Movie! At several points in the movie they flashed pictures of Bourne's picture from his file, and seeing that baby-face and smile just really put the spotlight on how beatup and rundown he was becoming, how everything was bearing down on him. And then at the end when he turns to the asset and says "Look what they make you give", he was just ready to let it end there. Oh, movie!Bourne!


Juliebird - Sep 06, 2007 8:24:46 am PDT #1272 of 10000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

uh, I'm thinking if one of the consequences is these people not wanting to go to movies with you that maybe would be a good thing!

more like harassment for the rest of the month along the lines of "you big baby, were we bothering you? Hey, [everyone], Julie went into the back of the theatre and sulked! Remember? It was sooo funny."


§ ita § - Sep 06, 2007 8:56:08 am PDT #1273 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I totally loved reading at least the first Bourne book. What sort of espionage deprived childhoods did y'all have?


Nutty - Sep 06, 2007 9:04:30 am PDT #1274 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

The Bourne books are hilariously baroque. There's a 100-page digression about financial transfers across national borders! There are detailed cockamamie explanations of brain trauma! And actually, what I always liked best about it, there are all sorts of little details of paranoia, Plans B, C, D, and E, and keeping them all available at all times.

In the books, Bourne starts out with a lot more skills. And it's the skills -- at lying, at being charming, at assessing his chances and perpetrating armed robbery -- that are his first clues that he is Not A Normal Guy. He's also got about a billion times more affect than in the book, so he comes across as John Q. Public slowly having his own underbelly revealed to him, rather than as Scary Robot slowly being humanized.


Fred Pete - Sep 06, 2007 9:06:54 am PDT #1275 of 10000
Ann, that's a ferret.

I went through a major Robert Ludlum (and James Bond) phase in college. And the first Bourne novel was one I couldn't put down. Ludlum kept the action moving fast enough that I didn't realize, in particular, what a ridiculous character Marie turned out to be.


Fred Pete - Sep 06, 2007 9:10:02 am PDT #1276 of 10000
Ann, that's a ferret.

And Nutty put her finger on a lot of Ludlum's appeal. Most of his lead characters are fairly normal people roped into very dangerous spy situations. And they end up doing things that, at the beginning, they never dreamed they'd do.

Satisfactory literary cotton candy.

I haven't seen the movies, so I can't comment. May I cast a vote for Our Man in Havana instead?