I don't want to spoil for quester in case quester hasn't seen last season's finale, but I was okay with Peggy until the season finale. I will not get over "what happened to" Peggy in the end.

Man, that just took me out of the show out of the moment and I'm still shaking my head months later.

Yeah, I can see that, Sail. Just like everyone in West Baltimore isn't really in the drug trade, though. A show is like a window. ETA: My grandfather might have, if he wasn't so busy being the Tragic...uh, Half-Breed or something like that. Megan hasn't seen "The Wire" Bubbs is pathetic sometimes, but he's never an asshat.

le nubian was it her finding out she was pregnant by going into labor!? or was it something else? I did happen to catch part of that episode if it's the one you mean.

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I found them unlikable, but the writing was so sharp and the casting so brilliant that I stuck with it. I think you see as the series goes on that though the women may be hurting more obviously, EVERYONE is suffering because of the rigid social mores of the era.

quester, yes. I couldn't get over the fact that Peggy went into labor and didn't know she was pregnant. What the fuck did she think was the baby kicking? I just don't get it. Yes, people have talked about women they know not realizing they were pregnant, but come on.

Yeah, Scrappy, it does seem that Don suffers from having to be The Man all the time. And it's heartbreakingly easy for him to be a total fake because nobody's supposed to get close to him anyway... or is that too "Behind Blue Eyes?"

My take on that, le nubian, was that I think people in that era thought the pill was infallible, so the pregnancy might have seemed inconceivable (no pun intended - ok, maybe a little) to Peggy. That with a heavy dose of denial, and a ton of conflicting feelings about Pete, makes it a twist I can deal with.

Franken,

yes, I think that was what we were to conclude as an audience, but I'm still not very happy with that.

And yet, there are documented cases in real life of that happening. You may not be happy with it, but it's not unrealistic.