Everybody dies, Tracey. Someone's carrying a bullet for you right now, doesn't even know it. The trick is to die of old age before it finds you.

Mal ,'The Message'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


DavidS - May 27, 2012 9:42:37 pm PDT #9594 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And, in a way, Don's gallantry is the thing that makes Joan's choice for her. That he didn't sell her out. That he believed she was better than that. It almost allows her to do it.

Okay, apparently I missed the point of that flashback because Don is coming to see Joan after she's already slept with Herb. So her presumption that he was one of the men who sold her out might have contributed to her decision, but his coming by later salvages something in their relationship.


Typo Boy - May 27, 2012 10:12:56 pm PDT #9595 of 11998
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Also are they really writing Peggy out of the show? If not, who comes crawling to whom?


Liese S. - May 27, 2012 11:40:38 pm PDT #9596 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Wtf, Mad Men? Super painful and upsetting.

The thing is that if Don is your moral compass, you have lost yourself as a company. I was kinda shipping Joan/Roger, but this is a clear example of why it would be a bad idea. Roger thinks no more of pimping Joan out than he does of using Mona or Jane for his business purposes.

I am kinda excited to see Peggy go. I would be interested in watching the two firms compete, and see Don & Peggy pitch against each other as equals. It was an amazing, well played scene, and I like both the characters' reactions, but it also felt true. That I should have seen this was inevitable.

I think Peggy's discarded the pact, but I hope not, because I would also like to see that. Honestly, it's kinda what I wanted previously, to see the new young firm struggling, to see it competing with the old self. Well, this is a different pairing, but I'm still interested in the competition.


le nubian - May 28, 2012 2:29:59 am PDT #9597 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The thing is that if Don is your moral compass, you have lost yourself as a company.

You are right, but then too, I got the impression that he felt this way about *Joan*. If it had been any other secretary the Jaguar people wanted, he wouldn't have been so agitated. There is nothing moral about it if it is dependent on one person.


Jon B. - May 28, 2012 3:35:41 am PDT #9598 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

As Peggy is waiting for the elevator at the end, looking towards the doors of the offices, FAQWife was terrified that she would step into an empty shaft. She literally grabbed my arm. THAT would have been fucked up.


le nubian - May 28, 2012 4:21:39 am PDT #9599 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

trust me. this whole household was worried about that too!

Beau was coming undone and I told him: look, if she looks in the elevator before walking in, she is in good shape.

At the end, I said "damn you Matt Weiner. You did that shit on purpose."


le nubian - May 28, 2012 4:25:00 am PDT #9600 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

is it possible Joan's husband will go over her share of the partnership?

This just occurred to me.


Theodosia - May 28, 2012 4:54:51 am PDT #9601 of 11998
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

My vote is on him getting fragged by his own troops in 'Nam. :-)

But, yeah, a lot depends on the divorce laws in NY at the time -- I'm not even sure that they had no-fault divorce, but that divorce suit contained "grounds" made up or otherwise.

Maybe it turns out that Doctor Rapist CAN count.


Tom Scola - May 28, 2012 4:56:43 am PDT #9602 of 11998
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

New York didn't have no-fault divorce until two years ago.


Jesse - May 28, 2012 5:22:39 am PDT #9603 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I was so glad to see Peggy's smile at the end -- no better feeling than leaving a job psyched for the next one. And I do hope she stays on the show.