Good luck. Try not to kill people. Hands! Hands!

Willow ,'Storyteller'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


-t - May 15, 2012 6:23:53 am PDT #9541 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's what I thought, too, Jon. She hasn't really internalized it, but she's working on it.

Eta: I guess the part Megan's friend got was on Dark Shadows? Nice timing!


Theodosia - May 15, 2012 6:31:54 am PDT #9542 of 11998
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Betty really connected in that moment -- toe in the water and all. She's capable of it. She could be brilliant and fulfilled as a political wife a la Ann Romney if she'd learn to leave her unhappy dollhouse.


Theodosia - May 15, 2012 6:33:31 am PDT #9543 of 11998
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Eta: I guess the part Megan's friend got was on Dark Shadows? Nice timing!

I noticed that, too. I wondered if it was some bizarre kind of product placement, or it just happened!


DavidS - May 15, 2012 6:34:26 am PDT #9544 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The timing was coincidental. It was the title of the episode too.


Jon B. - May 15, 2012 8:09:29 am PDT #9545 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I was wondering if the lines she was reading were from an actual Dark Shadows episode and if the Mad Men character had the same name as the actor who originally read them.


DavidS - May 15, 2012 8:30:33 am PDT #9546 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

and if the Mad Men character had the same name as the actor who originally read them.

I wondered that too because in the credits she had a first and last name, which would be unusual for a walk-on character, but would make sense if they really wanted to tie it to the show.

I guess I could go look up the credits on IMDB...


§ ita § - May 15, 2012 4:52:51 pm PDT #9547 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I saw this video on Gawker, and it couldn't have been more Parkery without a social disorder.


Typo Boy - May 15, 2012 6:35:12 pm PDT #9548 of 11998
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Jilli may get a kick out of this Amanda Marcotte at Pandagon is now a "Dark Shadows" addict, thanks to the Mad Men episode: [link]

But in the lead-up to this, I realized I didn't actually know much about "Dark Shadows". The movie looks wretched,* but it turns out that the original series is streaming on Netflix. So I fired it up, figuring I'd start in the second season when things got good (which is actually where Netflix starts the series at all), and that I'd take in a couple of episodes to get a feel for it. What happened instead is a bit of a "Dark Shadows" binge. That show rules. It's like eating candy. Deliciously campy candy, replete with silly vampire stuff and great 60s hair.

Further on:

I think soap operas tend to be viewed as "women's entertainment", and so their self-awareness and their skill at story-telling is discounted. (As well as their ability to churn out an astounding amount of product with limited resources.) But "Mad Men" actually owes a great debt to soap operas. To write a great soap opera, you have to be able to go a long time onscreen with "nothing" really happening---i.e., lots of relationship-building and table-setting, but no big plot twists---without boring your audience to death. As is suggested in this episode, one way soaps do that is with delightfully hammy acting, which "Mad Men" obviously has to shun. But mostly they do it by making you care about the characters so that their little dramas seem as important to you as they are to the characters.


sumi - May 16, 2012 11:22:49 am PDT #9549 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

TBS and TNT schedules:

Leverage is back on July 15th.


Zenkitty - May 16, 2012 11:55:09 am PDT #9550 of 11998
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Leverage is on at 8pm now? Wasn't it on at 9 before?