Mal: That's not what I saw. You like to tell me what really happened? Book: I surely would. And maybe someday I will.

'Safe'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


DavidS - May 11, 2012 4:49:18 am PDT #9511 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yeah, it's been a while since he's done the Kodak Carousel pitch.

I wonder if they'll bring him back in a loop doing a memorable pitch to end the season.

Right now all the good campaigns are coming from Peggy and Ginsberg.


Jesse - May 11, 2012 4:54:47 am PDT #9512 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

He's such a dinosaur now -- like he said, as a kid his aspiration was indoor plumbing.


Vortex - May 11, 2012 2:02:19 pm PDT #9513 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

But that's the point isn't it? You get to be the boss and let your underlings do the work. That's certainly my ambition at some point.


Jesse - May 11, 2012 3:50:44 pm PDT #9514 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh yeah, that's just why I don't think he's going to be coming up with the magical pitches from now on.


Jon B. - May 11, 2012 4:53:01 pm PDT #9515 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Hasn't Don's talent always been to figure out which are the good pitches and which aren't? That was his argument to Peggy when she complained about not getting credit for the award Don won last(?) season. In fact, have we known him to come up with his own ideas anytime in the past few seasons?


DavidS - May 11, 2012 6:28:58 pm PDT #9516 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In fact, have we known him to come up with his own ideas anytime in the past few seasons?

Well, he argued with Peggy about who deserved credit on the dogfood commercial that won the Clio.


Jon B. - May 13, 2012 2:06:30 am PDT #9517 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Did you read the two sentences before the one you quoted, David??? He told Peggy that she had pitched a ton of ideas, good and bad, but he could recognize which was the best one.


DavidS - May 13, 2012 5:55:22 am PDT #9518 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

He told Peggy that she had pitched a ton of ideas, good and bad, but he could recognize which was the best one.

You're right, that was the gist of his argument. That pitching ideas wasn't the same thing as shaping one into a commercial.


Typo Boy - May 13, 2012 9:30:36 am PDT #9519 of 11998
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

But one talent he had that he seems to have lost was SELLING THE CLIENT. Not just picking the right ideas to pitch, but then persuading them to say yes - often turning them around when they have doubts. These days Peggy noted that if a client does not like an idea he just eats and goes back to the drawing board. He almost lost Heinz, and while Peggy's angry outburst was part of it, it was not all if it. It took Megan to salvage Heinz and close the deal. He almost lost cool whip (or did he lose cool whip) because Megan was not there. Don's not the closer any more. And that is something that as the boss he can't count on being able to delegate to other people. If Don can't close then,in a business sense, he is just a younger Rodger.


Frankenbuddha - May 13, 2012 6:25:10 pm PDT #9520 of 11998
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Betty just descended to new levels of loathsomeness. Using Sally like that was just horrific, though I love that she got it thrown back in her face that Megan knows stuff in this short amount of time that Don never shared with her voluntarily.