I had a dream about Justified. Ava was dead, Raylan got in trouble at work and was no longer a Marshal, had a gang, and the subtext between him and Boyd was TEXT as they made out all over the place inbetween commercial breaks.
You know, with the exception of one deadly and unpredictable midget, this girl is the smallest cargo I've ever had to transport. Yet by far the most troublesome. Does that seem right to you?
Early ,'Objects In Space'
Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...
To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])
Juliebird - Jun 23, 2011 12:06:33 am PDT #8137 of 11999
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
le nubian - Jun 23, 2011 4:13:31 am PDT #8138 of 11999
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
ha! I love it.
le nubian - Jun 23, 2011 8:32:55 am PDT #8139 of 11999
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Cass - Jun 23, 2011 11:35:08 am PDT #8140 of 11999
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I am eh about that article. But I am amused that I misread the title, "'The Killing' Showrunner Responds to Finale Backlash: 'I Don't Want to Be Kinda Liked'" as "I Kinda Don't Want to Be Liked" and it made sense to me.
Honestly, I like the "it's a journey with complicated, flawed and interesting characters" shows more than a straight procedural. My issue with "The Killing" was that every ep felt like they were doing a procedural with a new bad guy and the ending was a cliffhanger every time showing that this ep's bad guy wasn't the bad guy and now it was someone new. For one ep. It's not nonformulaic, it's just a different format and one that apparently bugs me after a few eps.
-t - Jun 23, 2011 11:41:51 am PDT #8141 of 11999
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I am more irritated by her answers in that interview than I was by the finale.
Kristen - Jun 23, 2011 7:01:06 pm PDT #8142 of 11999
My issue with "The Killing" was that every ep felt like they were doing a procedural with a new bad guy and the ending was a cliffhanger every time showing that this ep's bad guy wasn't the bad guy and now it was someone new. For one ep. It's not nonformulaic, it's just a different format and one that apparently bugs me after a few eps.
This! I've been saying this all week long. In addition to, "AAARGH!" Just because you say you're not an old-fashioned procedural doesn't make it true. You're just a more annoying, less satisfying procedural.
le nubian - Jun 23, 2011 8:07:51 pm PDT #8143 of 11999
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I agree with you all. But I also wonder about how much folly it takes to base a show on the murder of a young woman, have two homicide cops be lead characters and say "hey, this isn't a procedural." Okay, sure, but then WTF did you structure the story such that we are FOLLOWING A POLICE INVESTIGATION every episode? It makes absolutely no fucking sense. Say you aren't doing a procedural in the manner of L&O or "The Closer", but don't say you aren't doing a procedural at all.
What are good examples of crime stories that aren't procedurals?
Typo Boy - Jun 23, 2011 9:08:23 pm PDT #8144 of 11999
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Anything where the police are not the most important part of the investigation. Sherlock Holmes, Hercule Poirot, Phillip Marlowe are all examples of crime stories that are not police procedurals. Police stories that are not procedurals - well umm Dexter ....
Typo Boy - Jun 23, 2011 9:10:16 pm PDT #8145 of 11999
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Incidentally in "The Protector" does Michelle Dulcett count as "Sassy Black Friend"?
Barb - Jun 23, 2011 9:32:48 pm PDT #8146 of 11999
“Not dead yet!”
What are good examples of crime stories that aren't procedurals?
Murder One, which, IIRC had a similar conceit where every hour of the show was one day of the trial. At least, that's what its original concept was.