Wash: Don't fall asleep now. Sleepiness is weakness of character. Ask anyone. You're acting captain. Know what happens you fall asleep now? Zoe: Jayne slits my throat, and takes over. Wash: That's right. Zoe: And we can't stop it.

'Shindig'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


-t - Oct 18, 2010 8:20:37 am PDT #7064 of 12003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That was a great little scene with the milkshake.


megan walker - Oct 18, 2010 8:30:13 am PDT #7065 of 12003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I don't think she's like Betty at all. I can't imagine that Betty ever showed the self-awareness or maturity that Megan showed in her early interactions with Don. (Of course, I never bought the Italian thing. You don't whip out a language 10+ years later like that. I've always felt that was one of the most out of character things they ever did on this show.)


Barb - Oct 18, 2010 8:32:13 am PDT #7066 of 12003
“Not dead yet!”

All the indications are that Betty was very different before marrying Don. She was a successful model (which requires a hell of a lot hard work - looks are not enough). She had completed her degree at a time when even a lot women who went to college (a small minority to begin with) settled for their "Mrs". She spoke fluent Italian.

Yeah, but Betty's upbringing was also exceedingly repressed, by her own confessions over the seasons. Her own mother was threatened by Betty's emerging sexuality, ergo, Betty is incredibly threatened by Sally's. Didn't she even say something to that effect during the episode where Sally was caught masturbating? I think Betty turned to modeling not simply because she was pretty, but because it was a way in which to project sexuality without actually acting on it, which was a safe outlet for her.


Theodosia - Oct 18, 2010 8:39:51 am PDT #7067 of 12003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Anybody who can handle a spilled milkshake like that has a good chance at weathering Hurricane Don, or so I'd like to think.


Jessica - Oct 18, 2010 8:49:26 am PDT #7068 of 12003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It's like he realized that it wasn't a big deal and he didn't have to be upset.

You'd think someone in advertising would have at least heard the phrase "no use crying over spilt milk" before...

But yes, I also really liked that moment. I still don't want Megan (or anyone, really) trapped in the role of I-married-the-babysitter. I mean, if taking care of Don's kids every other weekend is really what she wants for herself, then great, but I'm not sure she realizes just exactly how much she'd better be prepared to quash any of her own ambitions in order to be the next Mrs Don Draper.


le nubian - Oct 18, 2010 8:51:49 am PDT #7069 of 12003
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

And, has she interacted with Betty for any length of time? I'm not sure I'd wish that on any future Mrs. Draper.


Jessica - Oct 18, 2010 8:53:34 am PDT #7070 of 12003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

And, has she interacted with Betty for any length of time? I'm not sure I'd wish that on any future Mrs. Draper.

I think they met briefly when Sally ran away, but that may have been their only interaction. (Unless she was there when Don picked up the kids for the LA trip.)


DavidS - Oct 18, 2010 10:48:58 am PDT #7071 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Dr. Faye told Don he'd be married again within the year.

I knew he wouldn't commit to her once he confided in her. And yet...he didn't want to lie outright to Sally about Dick. I think he has to tell Megan about Dick Whitman, but that's something he should have done before he proposed. So, that relationship is already compromised.

I'm certain that "I Got You Babe" was used with exactly the same amount of irony that "Don't Stop Believin'" was used in the Sopranos finale. First of all, Sonny was an older man who controlled Cher's life. Second of all, they got divorced.

I don''t believe this marriage will be a happy ending for Don or Megan. He wasn't honest with her beforehand. It's built on bullshit.

And everybody's WTF reaction was perfect. It was hard watching all the women in Don's life get the news: Joan, Peggy, Faye, Betty. It hurt each of them.

God, I loved that scene with Peggy and Joan.

"What ever is on your mind?"

"I've learned not to take all my satisfaction from work."
"Bullshit!"

That line of Joan's, "Life goes on" after she saw the doctor was just too rich in that context not to be a clue.


DavidS - Oct 18, 2010 11:28:39 am PDT #7072 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Also, I'll note that Megan was very canny and even a bit calculating.

I don't think she's sneaky evil or anything, but she did what she could to align things. The look on her face after he slept with her in California definitely suggested that she knew he was on the hook. She "just had a feeling about it" calling her mom. She stopped by dressed to kill before she went out to the Whisky (I hope she went to see The Doors, or Love). She pushed him to call Dr. Faye, and she was in his office seconds after he made that call.

Again, I like the character and the actress, but she's no naif.


DavidS - Oct 18, 2010 11:34:05 am PDT #7073 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Ouch, a hard but possibly apt assessment of Don from AVClub:

Can you picture an elderly Don Draper proudly showing off his coin collection to visiting grandchildren? I can’t. I can only see him alone, living with regret. I think those flashes of soulfulness, those moments that keep us invested in Don’s happiness and worried about his fate, would only hurt him in his dotage. He’s a man capable of inflicting terrible hurt, but he’s sensitive enough to know what he’s doing and introspective enough to remember the hurt he’s dispensed. I see Don Draper’s golden years as an endless succession of tortured winces.