I think Joan is likely to become more and more anti-feminist. A strong thread in this show is the building of the America that supported Nixon.

Huh. I'm the other way. Joan's like a lot of women managers I worked for in the eighties who started as secretaries in the sixties. She's smart and competent and will have some feminist consciousness raising, but will always have some conflicted feelings about her worth being tied to her sexual desirability.

I think in the real world you are right. But I'm guessing that is the way the show will go.

So I was watching "The Closer" last night an around the 45 minute mark I wondered: "do they have the balls to off nearly the entire team and make this the series ender?" I really thought for a second they were going to go out like that.

They didn't, and I found the ending to be a little weak, but I sure did perk up there for a minute.

Heh. I think if they were going to do that FBI Hubbie would have been there. And the kitten.

Did anybody die?

well, that's a difficult question to answer, seeing as the show focuses on "major crimes."

I know what you meant by the question, but I am deliberately being obtuse.

The Closer: Did anyone hear that bit of the speech at the end that the other characters were talking over. It sounds like the new chief is going to be announcing someone to run a new task force soon.

It's weird to go from Mad Men with Francine to Covert Affairs with Danielle. When I still think they are both Amber from House!

sj, yes. I heard that. And the person will be closing some divisions as well.

they are both Amber from House

It's only been the last week or so that I stopped thinking of her as "Cutthroat Bitch" every time she appeared on my screen.