Jeez, don't get all Movie of the Week. I was just too cheap to buy you a real present.

Dawn ,'The Killer In Me'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


DavidS - Sep 06, 2010 8:22:21 am PDT #6661 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Concur, they both were spectacular.

Jess called it a bottle episode and I'd agree. But it was also an old fashioned two-hander.

I don't think Don has bottomed out yet. I want to see him bounce back but I don't think that'll happen for a few more episodes yet.

On the AVCLub review and comments a few people noted that one of the great things about the first fight between Don and Peggy is that they're both right.

I'm reminded of some scenes on Buffy where they were arguing about killing Angel (S2 then) where the tension between Xander and Giles was just boiling hot as they made their arguments. But they were both right.

Anyway, I would love to see Peggy fill some of Anna's role in Don's life. I think she already does and that's what this episode was about.

I'm sort of reminded of the Mary Tyler Moore show where the work friendships were so deep and complex and evolved over time.


Jesse - Sep 06, 2010 8:43:42 am PDT #6662 of 12003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

On the AVCLub review and comments a few people noted that one of the great things about the first fight between Don and Peggy is that they're both right.

Oh yeah. But he was more right. I guess that means I'm The Man now, huh? But really, just because she's more successful than most people in her position doesn't mean she's not still a kid with a lot to learn about work. "You never say thank you!"/"That's what the money is for!" was brilliant.


DavidS - Sep 06, 2010 8:54:52 am PDT #6663 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But he was more right.

Yeah, though it's hard to hear since he has been purposefully hard on Peggy. And he's making her stay late on her birthday because he doesn't want to be alone facing Anna's death.

But I also like that her "less rightness" in the episode is so in character and also points to her strengths. She wants and feels like she deserves recognition. She has a sense of her own value and won't be deterred by the increasingly stupid frat boy antics around her.


DavidS - Sep 06, 2010 8:56:51 am PDT #6664 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

"You never say thank you!"/"That's what the money is for!" was brilliant.

That is a badass line and worthy of Glengarry Glen Ross.

"Coffee's for closers!"

And though it's become debased through becoming a catchphrase, that was the original point of the "Show me the money" line in Jerry Maguire. That in America money is respect.

::checks bank account. fails at American::


Jessica - Sep 06, 2010 9:48:06 am PDT #6665 of 12003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Mrs. Blankenship slept with Roger!!!

Really puts a new spin on his "Where did Joan dig HER out of?" comment when she was first brought in, doesn't it?

On the AVCLub review and comments a few people noted that one of the great things about the first fight between Don and Peggy is that they're both right.

What's interesting there is that the kind of management style Peggy wants from Don is not going to be something she gets from a male supervisor in 1965 unless (like Duck) he also wants to sleep with her. And she doesn't really want that either. She thinks she ought to be flirted with, but deep down she's more proud of Don's respect for her work than any romantic attention she's had from anyone.

I would love to see Peggy fill some of Anna's role in Don's life. I think she already does and that's what this episode was about.

Allowing that kind of intimacy from someone he sees every day (vs someone on the opposite side of the country) would require a huge leap forward for his character. I'd love to see it happen, but it's a long road to get there.


-t - Sep 06, 2010 9:54:26 am PDT #6666 of 12003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Really puts a new spin on his "Where did Joan dig HER out of?" comment when she was first brought in, doesn't it?

Oh, my. I'd forgotten that.

I was amazed that (a) Don broke down in front of Peggy - he didn't start crying until he looked up and saw her watching him, and (b) Don had a picture of Anna on his desk


Theodosia - Sep 06, 2010 10:35:51 am PDT #6667 of 12003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

You know it's not so much that Don has a work wife as Peggy has a work husband now.


DavidS - Sep 06, 2010 11:58:44 am PDT #6668 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The Queen of Perversions - Miss Blankenship - in her youth.


-t - Sep 06, 2010 1:26:48 pm PDT #6669 of 12003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm not sure, but I think things happened on Rubicon. I have no idea what, though.


quester - Sep 06, 2010 1:58:55 pm PDT #6670 of 12003
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I thought that Roger was making all of that stuff up, but I guess it could be true. I loved that Don finally did break down and Peggy was there to comfort him. Interesting dynamic shifts in this episode.

I guess Peggy just broke up with both of her boyfriends for Don.