Flames wouldn't be eternal if they actually consumed anything.

Lilah ,'Not Fade Away'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


§ ita § - Jun 22, 2010 5:43:57 pm PDT #5640 of 12003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just watched the last two eps of Saving Grace. WTF?

That show has the most random characterisation, I swear. Or everyone's just really creepy. Ham back in love with Grace--when did that happen? I thought it creepy enough when he moved so smoothly off her onto that other woman, but I missed when he came back.

Never got Neely and her transition between druggie stripper and God's zealot and back again.

And the sudden amping up of the metaphysics was a bit much for me too.

But at least now I know.


sj - Jun 22, 2010 5:47:56 pm PDT #5641 of 12003
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Ham back in love with Grace--when did that happen?

Last week he told his brother's widow (who he had been dating) that he couldn't be with her anymore because he realized he was still in love with Grace. Apparently he realized this after Grace hit and killed a little girl with her car. I really hate the way they seem to be winding down the series, but I haven't seen this week's episodes yet.


§ ita § - Jun 22, 2010 6:19:39 pm PDT #5642 of 12003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But when did it happen onscreen? I mean, he went from Grace to the woman involved in an investigation to his brother's widow...just like moving. I never saw any emotions that moved him from one point to another. Just actions.

Same with the Neely changes. One week she'd just show up and be a new iteration of Neely. Whatever Grace needed her to be.

I managed to spoil myself for the end of the last episode 15 minutes before I got there, because I was being sloppy. Eh. I wasn't that invested anyway.


quester - Jun 22, 2010 6:20:44 pm PDT #5643 of 12003
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

the finale was full of such random stuff, it didn't seem rooted in any reality.


Morgana - Jun 22, 2010 6:22:18 pm PDT #5644 of 12003
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Can someone tell me if Gus survived until the end?


quester - Jun 22, 2010 6:24:25 pm PDT #5645 of 12003
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Yes, he did.


Morgana - Jun 22, 2010 6:29:20 pm PDT #5646 of 12003
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Thank you, quester. Now I can give my mom the all-clear so she can watch the last 5 or so episodes. She doesn't care how many people get wiped out, as long as the puppy makes it through.


quester - Jun 22, 2010 7:36:40 pm PDT #5647 of 12003
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

The body count is very low.


Beverly - Jun 22, 2010 9:31:10 pm PDT #5648 of 12003
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I just deleted Memphis Beat and the last two episodes of Grace off the dvr unwatched, based on this thread. Thanks for sparing me three hours I can spend on Leverage rewatch.


Theresa - Jun 22, 2010 9:50:06 pm PDT #5649 of 12003
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I think you might have liked Memphis Beat Bev. I don't know if I love it enough to stick with it, but I like it enough to watch next week. Alfre Woodard continues to be who I want to be when I grow up. The cinematography was definitely captivating so from the opening scene, I was thinking it would be something that would interest you. I'm still making up my mind. And the Elvis stuff was character quirk, and getting a feel for the city. Not OTT.

I did like how gritty everything looked when Jason Lee's character would be looking at the bridge. That's mostly what I remember about the city.