do you all really think that was Don Draper's father? I thought he had no relation to him at all given the way the man treated the boy.
I-I'm just taking things without paying for th... In what twisted dictionary is that stealing?
Willow ,'Showtime'
Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...
To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])
le nubian - Sep 07, 2007 8:10:30 pm PDT #511 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
sumi - Sep 08, 2007 5:27:38 am PDT #512 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!
You don't think he was just a bad father? I mean - seriously -- he totally looks like Jon Hamm. Why would they cast like that if he isn't meant to be the father?
Jon B. - Sep 08, 2007 6:53:24 am PDT #513 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
A man knocks up a prostitute who dies in childbirth(?) and, through guilt, agrees to take in and raise the child. I can totally see such a man being abusive and treating the kid as unwanted.
le nubian - Sep 08, 2007 12:01:28 pm PDT #514 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Jon,
I can't imagine Don Draper's mother really is a prostitute. I think his father was cuckolded.
Sumi, for some reason I didn't think the man looked that much like Hamm, but maybe I need to rewatch!
sumi - Sep 08, 2007 12:14:36 pm PDT #515 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!
I thought that there was alot of resemblence around the eyes.
And I can't imagine-- who would Dick be if that woman wasn't his mother and yet she had a son by his father? Surely, it suggests that her husband is his father. And I cannot believe that you think it impossible for a child to be abused by his biological parents.
erikaj - Sep 08, 2007 12:54:11 pm PDT #516 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!
Yeah...they might just think he's weak. Or need a scapegoat.
Jessica - Sep 08, 2007 12:59:18 pm PDT #517 of 11998
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
I think Don is the man's son from an earlier relationship (not necessarily a marriage), and that the woman currently raising him refers to his biological mother as a whore, and Don himself as "that whore's son."
The House Next Door made a point about the last shot that I thought was kind of brilliant:
Don’s lies are a burden he can’t easily shrug off, and the last shot of the episode reminds us that the door of his office bears the same coded message that the hobo carved into the gatepost of the Whitman farm: A dishonest man lives here.
sumi - Sep 08, 2007 1:00:13 pm PDT #518 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!
Umm, it does?
Jessica - Sep 08, 2007 1:07:08 pm PDT #519 of 11998
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Not literally -- he's referring to the closeup on the "Don Draper" nameplate.
le nubian - Sep 08, 2007 1:10:48 pm PDT #520 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
And I cannot believe that you think it impossible for a child to be abused by his biological parents.
Oh, that's not at all what I think. It just seemed to me that his "father" was treating him like one might treat a nephew or something. I don't mean in terms of abuse, but just the remoteness if that makes sense. I just felt like that man didn't really seem part of the household if that makes any sense.