Tracy: 'When you can't run, you crawl... and when you can't crawl, when you can't do that--' Zoe: 'You find someone to carry you.'

'The Message'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Vortex - Jul 29, 2009 5:58:15 pm PDT #2617 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I thought that Hardison grew up with his grandmother?


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2009 6:42:14 pm PDT #2618 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I seem to recall the conversation between him and Parker starting with her saying that, and him saying that's just what they called her.


Lee - Jul 29, 2009 10:20:42 pm PDT #2619 of 11998
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I don't know how I feel about Eliot (potentially) being abused as a kid. I'd kind of like him to be a badass just because he's a badass.


Sparky1 - Jul 30, 2009 4:14:02 am PDT #2620 of 11998
Librarian Warlord

My first thought is that the people who are finding reasons to believe Eliot was abused are looking for them so that they can believe he's got a reason to be who he is that is other than he's a badass.

One of the reasons I like these characters is that they are thieves and liars, not angels or even people looking for redemption, and I hope that never changes. They love the con, the control, the manipulation, and the money.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 30, 2009 4:26:39 am PDT #2621 of 11998
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

My first thought is that the people who are finding reasons to believe Eliot was abused are looking for them so that they can believe he's got a reason to be who he is that is other than he's a badass.

I have no problem with him just being a badass. The reason I suspect a history of abuse was how he sussed out what was going on with the kid in a very short time, and from a little bit of a distance. I also wouldn't be surprised if the show just leaves it as a bit of an open question.


Ailleann - Jul 30, 2009 4:30:56 am PDT #2622 of 11998
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

While I must admit that Eliot being an abused kid was my first thought, there's lots of other ways that he would be able to pick out the signs. I like that it's an open question, something for us to learn more about later.


Lee - Jul 30, 2009 5:14:49 am PDT #2623 of 11998
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I hope they do leave it open. The abused child turning into a badass seems done to death to me, especially since I already watch Burn Notice.


Vortex - Jul 30, 2009 5:35:10 am PDT #2624 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I seem to recall the conversation between him and Parker starting with her saying that, and him saying that's just what they called her.

ah. I must have missed that.

My first thought is that the people who are finding reasons to believe Eliot was abused are looking for them so that they can believe he's got a reason to be who he is that is other than he's a badass.

I don't think that people are finding reasons, we were led there by the show.

The abused child turning into a badass seems done to death to me, especially since I already watch Burn Notice.

oh, I hope that you dodged than anvil they dropped last week, I almost got hit.


Lee - Jul 30, 2009 5:46:11 am PDT #2625 of 11998
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I actually liked last week's Burn Notice ep, anvils and all, but I don't really expect much from the show.

I'm also not sure how I feel about more MichaelWestonWoobie!Eliot.


Vortex - Jul 30, 2009 5:52:49 am PDT #2626 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I do wish that they'd done just one more line of dialogue with the marshal where he explained that he worked for the federal government, not the police. I don't know that most kids would know what a US Marshal was.