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Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


§ ita § - Jul 21, 2009 10:46:35 am PDT #2533 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, angst behind the scenes isn't just for chicks, although I think they tend to give women flaws in different ways, both genders get their demons.

Speaking of Monk, they're really playing up the goodbye with the final season. I don't watch it regularly anymore, but I'm starting to feel sad about it.


Vortex - Jul 21, 2009 10:54:17 am PDT #2534 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yeah, angst behind the scenes isn't just for chicks, although I think they tend to give women flaws in different ways, both genders get their demons.

True, but women tend to get incompetence (i.e. she's always running late, her car breaks down, she can't find her keys, etc.) more than personal demons.


erikaj - Jul 21, 2009 10:55:32 am PDT #2535 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!

And of course "Rescue Me" sets a new standard, all by itself, for Fucked.


-t - Jul 21, 2009 11:04:58 am PDT #2536 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't watch it regularly anymore, but I'm starting to feel sad about it.

I've kept watching, though it's not near as enjoyable as it first was. I'm hoping that having an end in sight will allow a resurgence of quality along with some closure re: Trudy.

women tend to get incompetence (i.e. she's always running late, her car breaks down, she can't find her keys, etc.) more than personal demons.

Really? I haven't watched In Plain SIght at all, but I can't think of any examples of that from shows that I do watch. If that's a trope I've been avoiding without realizing it I guess I'm grateful to my subconscious.


beekaytee - Jul 21, 2009 11:13:58 am PDT #2537 of 11998
Compassionately intolerant

And of course "Rescue Me" sets a new standard, all by itself, for Fucked.

Oddly, the women seem to be the only ones on that show with even a scrap of sanity.

I'm a total, viewer come lately to Rescue Me, but so I have no cred, but I'm enjoying this season.


§ ita § - Jul 21, 2009 11:16:54 am PDT #2538 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

but women tend to get incompetence (i.e. she's always running late, her car breaks down, she can't find her keys, etc.) more than personal demons

The shows that come to mind (CSI, Saving Grace, The Closer, Life) don't bring that to mind--I don't watch In Plain Sight--which others do you mean?


beekaytee - Jul 21, 2009 11:17:33 am PDT #2539 of 11998
Compassionately intolerant

I kept watching Monk despite being disappointed with the lackluster showing in the last few seasons. I'm with -t. I hope they pull out the stops for the final 16.

Watching the last Emmy broadcast was kind of painful. I haven't read anything about Shaloub's personal life, but it seemed weird that he and Brooke Adams were sitting at an empty table. He kept reaching for her hand when the camera was on them but she kept inching away. He was, however, rocking a pretty cool Nehru jacket.


Barb - Jul 21, 2009 11:39:00 am PDT #2540 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

(i.e. she's always running late, her car breaks down, she can't find her keys, etc.) more than personal demons.

Yeah, but I felt that they tied in those things to her personal demons. Like she has to be so rigid about her emotions and she's so scrupulous about doing her job well, that her cracks show with the most mundane of things.


Kristen - Jul 21, 2009 2:26:45 pm PDT #2541 of 11998

But, it's not stupid bullshit like Mary's car always breaking down.

I don't miss that. But I do miss her keeping a little to do list in her car.


Juliebird - Jul 22, 2009 4:09:49 pm PDT #2542 of 11998
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

"you're killllllling meeeeeee"

Yay Leverage!