What? She killed 'em with mathematics. What else could it have been?

Jayne ,'Objects In Space'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Hayden - May 11, 2009 7:31:30 pm PDT #2279 of 11998
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

The meth addict Walt met in the store last night was played by our neighbor, who is mainly a stand-up comic, continuing Breaking Bad's mission of taking funny people and putting them into bleak dramatic roles.


erikaj - May 11, 2009 7:38:28 pm PDT #2280 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!

They should learn from "The Wire" that bleak doesn't have to be unfunny.


Polter-Cow - May 11, 2009 10:05:09 pm PDT #2281 of 11998
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I am all caught up! Leverage has been pimped!


Stephanie - May 12, 2009 10:10:42 am PDT #2282 of 11998
Trust my rage

So, I think I might be one ep of Breaking Bad behind, because I've been watching on iTunes, but I am so enjoying this show. It's like the Sopranos in some ways, but better.

I don't have time to write a P-C style report (I love reading those), but here are my thoughts.

1. I think this show is all about identity (but without problematic rape and human trafficking). Walt, faced with his death, is trying to figure out who he is. Yeah, this all started with him trying to take care of his family, but there's more to it than that. He's had chances to walk away in the past, and didn't take them. He doesn't need to be Heisenburg anymore, but he loves it too much. It makes him feel strong/good about himself and he can't bear to walk away from that. Jesse too. He was a stoner loser but now he's an up and coming drug lord. He wants to be a tough guy, I think, but he also treats Walt like a father. I don't know why, but I think it's so funny that he still calls Walt Mr. White.

2. I love the character of Hank. At first I thought he was just a blowhard dumb cop - sort of a foil for his smarter but less athletic BIL, but he's a badass in his own way too. He took Tuco out with a handgun. But at a price! Walt is thriving in his new role but Hank is suffering a bit in his.

3. I think this show is smartly written. Little stuff seems to pay off. So Hank has run into Walt connections three times now in his DEA stuff (or Walk led him to DEA stuff). Someone who was not Walt's BIL might have put it together by now, but anyone who knew Walt would never picture him as Heisenburg.

4. My parents live near Albuquerque and it's so much fun to see local shops and scenery on TV.

Anyway, I could go on, but I'm enjoying watching a show that sticks with me after it's over.


Polter-Cow - May 12, 2009 10:14:28 am PDT #2283 of 11998
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I've been interested in Breaking Bad. Should I watch Breaking Bad or Mad Men next?


Stephanie - May 12, 2009 10:22:11 am PDT #2284 of 11998
Trust my rage

I haven't seen Mad Men. I think I've read more raving about it, though. But I do like BB a lot. The first season is only 8 episodes (I think) and the entire story so far takes place over just a few weeks. (Although it's funny because this season, they've mentioned "the economy" a few times, which makes me laugh because there was no "the economy" two weeks ago in show time. It's not inconsistent or anything. Just funny.)

Personally, I love the premise - chemistry teacher with lung cancer turns to cooking meth to provide for his pregnant wife and teenage son. I mean, how kooky is that? I was listening to a podcast today and the guy (I assume the show runner but not sure) said that he pitched to story as "good guy goes bad, by choice" which I think is cool because haven't we all wanted to be bad occasionally?


Frankenbuddha - May 12, 2009 10:23:52 am PDT #2285 of 11998
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'd nominate Mad Men (mainly because I haven't seen BB), which is awesome, but I'm also curious what you'll think of Mad Men.


Liese S. - May 12, 2009 10:24:19 am PDT #2286 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Hee. Recognizing stuff was one of the reasons I ended up not watching Breaking Bad. It was all too close to home in many literal ways for me.


Hayden - May 12, 2009 10:47:41 am PDT #2287 of 11998
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Breaking Bad is the darker of the two, which is saying a lot because Mad Men is quite dark. I think Mad Men has a little more visual flair than Breaking Bad, but both are dealing with identity crises in their own interesting ways.


-t - May 12, 2009 10:54:22 am PDT #2288 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

They are both really good, P-C. I am more into Breaking Bad at the moment because it is actually airing, so new shows to watch. Breaking Bad is a more personal show, it's really all about Walt - the supporting characters are three dimensional real people, but they are definitely supporting Walt's story. Mad Men is more about the time and society in general, though the personal stories are also very compelling.

Yeah, this all started with him trying to take care of his family, but there's more to it than that.

I think that while we the audience can see that, Walt hasn't admitted it to himself, yet. He can do all these bad things because he "has to", but without the justification he'll have to face that he's done some seriously bad shit. It's fascinating. And it's killing me the way he has been alienating his wife and son by spending all his time doing illegal stuff "for them".

I'm an episode behind at this point, also. I sometimes put off watching it because of the bleak, though currently I just have kind of a lot of TV backed up on the DVR.