Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


§ ita § - Feb 24, 2009 6:14:34 pm PST #2084 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It really wasn't where I thought they were going to stop--I thought it would end either earlier or later. Pretty damned mean.

John Rogers' blog talks about Nate/Sophie this season, and I'm glad the writers gave it that much thought.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 24, 2009 6:32:23 pm PST #2085 of 11998
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It really wasn't where I thought they were going to stop--I thought it would end either earlier or later. Pretty damned mean.

LOVED that ending. It works if they got another round of shows or didn't. Granted, any suspense on what's (eventually) going to happen next was wiped away by the announcement about the summer return, but I'm curious if they'll play with how they hook up again the way they did at the beginning of this ep.

And, I'm so happy that Maggie got her violence on, hee.

Yes! Also, I was glad to see Nathan admit why everything has been going down the way it has, both between them and in his own life.

ETA - the way it ended almost reminded me a little of how the last episode of Angel ended, though without the impending violence.


SailAweigh - Feb 24, 2009 6:34:35 pm PST #2086 of 11998
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

talks about Nate/Sophie this season

That was a nice little summary. I only caught about half the episodes today, so it filled in some of the blanks in my mind. And gave me a better idea of where Sophie was at the beginning of The First David Job.


Liese S. - Feb 24, 2009 9:35:58 pm PST #2087 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I loved the opening because I was all, but wait, how, and then they explained and it all made sense in a way that makes them step through it. Not in a BSG...and then it was a lot later and inexplicably things are different! way.

I like that the tension was there and that they had to deal with what Sophie had done. And I agree with ita about Eliot taking it the worst because he was the least likely to have done the team thing. And they really are, at this point, so that's rough to have Sophie blow through it.

I don't entirely buy Maggie's response to Nate's news. And I wish I didn't buy the premise. That if there were a treatment out there that might save my son, I get it done, and work out how I'm going to pay for it later, insurance or no insurance. But is that not how it goes for experimental stuff? Do you really have a bunch of papers to sign that include your credit report before they'll do that kind of work?

I just mean the whole thing makes me sad now, because as a criminal, Nate's got available to him the kind of numbers that would pay for a damn lot of care. And that sucks. But maybe that's kinda the point.

Glad to see in the blog kinda more where they were heading with Nate & Sophie, and it's once again evidence that episode order shouldn't be jacked with. But I've seen them all out of order, I'm probably not the best person to ask.

Oh! And I would totally watch a show that was a chase caper with Hardison pursuing Parker across the continents.


SuziQ - Feb 25, 2009 4:54:46 am PST #2088 of 11998
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I watched the full marathon yesterday. What, was working from home, might as well have yummy background visuals.

I've gotten to where I can handwave much of the "but it doesn't work that way" type of stuff, but there were a couple of interpersonal things that bugged.

In the Miracle Job, Maggie calls Nate to tell him about the church and such, so she knew how to contact him. She also must have stayed in the area to know what was happening there. Why was it such a surprise to see her in The First David Job?

Also, in so many of the cons where Parker has to interact with others, she is awkward and has to take her clues from the others (calling for help while dangling from a skilift...hello?). But in The Wedding Job, when she is stuck in the screening room, she comes up with the perfect way to get out and break up the conversation all on her own.


§ ita § - Feb 25, 2009 5:20:23 am PST #2089 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why was it such a surprise to see her in The First David Job?

I think a lot of that has to do with her being on Eliot's arm. In theory, without introducing her there, they should have gotten through the con without bumping into her.

As for Parker in what was intended to be episode 3, that is way early for her to be that deft, but I guess the temptation to set up Hardison's reaction was too hard to resist.


Lee - Feb 25, 2009 5:40:45 am PST #2090 of 11998
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I handwaved the Parker being deft as something akin to Sophie being able to act during a con but not on stage--it's just situational, and she still has no understanding of how Hardison would react.


Vortex - Feb 25, 2009 5:50:58 am PST #2091 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

That if there were a treatment out there that might save my son, I get it done, and work out how I'm going to pay for it later, insurance or no insurance. But is that not how it goes for experimental stuff? Do you really have a bunch of papers to sign that include your credit report before they'll do that kind of work?

I think that they had already done that. Nate talked about how they'd mortgaged the house, maxed out the credit cards, etc. They'd probably want the money up front, especially with an experimental treatment.

As for Parker in what was intended to be episode 3, that is way early for her to be that deft, but I guess the temptation to set up Hardison's reaction was too hard to resist.

This is something that bugs me in general. Writers give characters particular traits (i.e. how Joey in Friends was the stupid one), and they exploit those traits for comic effect, but when they need them to not have that trait, they just drop it for the bit.

The one handwavium that they've been doing is that Parker has different instincts in "professional" situations than personal. Kind of like how Sophie's bit as the nun in the fake horror movie was good because she was in character.

Side Note: Are they trying to set Parker up as lesbian?

BTW, I LOVED the new Leverage HQ being MC Hammer's old house.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 25, 2009 6:53:29 am PST #2092 of 11998
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I always figured Paker's less-than-convincing acting job on the ski lift had more to do with her impatience with the role she was asked to play (i.e. damsel in distress) more than with her lack of social skills.

Side Note: Are they trying to set Parker up as lesbian?

I've figured her behavior towards Hardison just indicated she doesn't have particularly good romantic radar (which I think is Buffista conversation 324).


beekaytee - Feb 25, 2009 6:58:13 am PST #2093 of 11998
Compassionately intolerant

BTW, I LOVED the new Leverage HQ being MC Hammer's old house.

Me too. Hammer has been pretty open about his financial mistakes...gold toilets and all. Bless him. I hope he doesn't mind the joke.