Spike? It's you. It's really you! My therapist thought I was holding on to false hope, but…I knew you'd come back. You're like…you're like Gandalf the White, resurrected from the pit of the Balrog, more beautiful than ever. Oh…he's alive Frodo. He's alive.

Andrew ,'Damage'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


sumi - Jul 26, 2007 8:48:48 pm PDT #189 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

It was a completely different world back then. Was New York one of those states?

Anyway, the case was Griswold vs. Connecticut - where Griswold was convicted for providing information about contraceptives to married couples.


-t - Jul 26, 2007 9:43:46 pm PDT #190 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

They should just name the kid after Johnny, get a dna test and be done with it.

I agree with the first half of that. Would a DNA test be able to distinguish which brother was the father? Brothers have a lot of genes in common.


Fred Pete - Jul 27, 2007 4:24:15 am PDT #191 of 11998
Ann, that's a ferret.

The court didn't rule on contraceptives for unmarried persons until 1973, in Eisenstadt v. Baird.


Stephanie - Jul 27, 2007 5:22:50 am PDT #192 of 11998
Trust my rage

My mom was almost forced to quit her job when she was pregnant with me - in 1974. I was shocked when I found out. It was considered wrong/bad/whatever for children to be exposed to such a pregnant woman. (I guess because it was obvious that she was having sex? With her husband?)

Anyway, my dad the law student wrote a memo appealing their decision and they let her stay until the end of the year (although I was born a month early so that was the end of that).

eta for clarity - my mom was a 4th grade teacher


bon bon - Jul 27, 2007 5:35:19 am PDT #193 of 11998
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

ISTR that the contraceptives law was not that common or not frequently enforced-- akin to sodomy laws. But I haven't seen Mad Men yet.


sumi - Jul 27, 2007 5:50:04 am PDT #194 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Do you know what the law was in New York? I understand it was a state by state deal.

I was also appalled that Don could call up his wife's shrink and get the lowdown on her session from him.


bon bon - Jul 27, 2007 7:03:09 am PDT #195 of 11998
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I believe it was legal for doctors to prescribe in NY (where M. Sanger opened a clinic in the 1920s). I think Connecticut and Massachusetts may have been the only states where it was illegal.


Scrappy - Jul 27, 2007 7:52:44 am PDT #196 of 11998
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I know my parents had to go to a court hearing with their doctor and minister get permission for my dad to get a vasectomy back in the early '60s. They had to prove that the reason they were getting it was to save my mother's life and that they were of good character.


erikaj - Jul 27, 2007 9:01:05 am PDT #197 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!

Maybe it's because I've got a disability, but I'm still not sure a neurologist might not be a better fit than a psych. And, yes, bleah, to not talking to her and then talking to her hubby. Sometimes fighting for social change can be so frustrating, because day to day you don't see your work, but it's obvious watching that, that we do make a difference. Even if we have not created a utopia or anything.


sumi - Jul 27, 2007 10:11:22 am PDT #198 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

erika - I'm guessing that her husband hasn't actually seen her hands not working so is willing to believe it's all in her head.