Anya: We should drop a piano on her. It always works for that creepy cartoon rabbit when he's running from that nice man with the speech impediment. Giles: Yes, or perhaps we could paint a convincing fake tunnel on the side of a mountain.

'Touched'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


DavidS - Oct 27, 2008 8:03:30 am PDT #1775 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

There was a lot of lovely framing.

Indeed, she seems to be almost floating on the OB/GYN table.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 27, 2008 8:17:53 am PDT #1776 of 11998
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Fantastic recap of the ep in the Chicago Tribune: [link]

I was just coming in to post that. Really good recap. And the subtext theater was hilarious.


DavidS - Oct 27, 2008 8:35:43 am PDT #1777 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

A good, subtle, interesting writing tip by Matthew Weiner:

And then just stylistically I cannot pretend that working on “The Sopranos” all that time did not influence the series, even though I wrote the (“Mad Men”) pilot first. Making sure everyone has a reason for doing what they’re doing and not letting the characters help each other solve their problems - actually making them impediments.


Barb - Oct 27, 2008 8:58:42 am PDT #1778 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

I saw that too, Hec, although this was the bit that resonated the strongest with me, with respect to writing:

I was like “The show’s over, go home. I’m allowed to do whatever I want” (laughs). By the way, I’m allowed to do whatever I want anyway. Don could pull a cell phone out at some time. I don’t do that stuff because I don’t want the reality broken.

...

The American Airlines ad, that they were most critical of, had this very famous lettering and it was used by DDB about six months after the crash and we put it in our pitch and I was thinking “I’m sorry, I don’t have the freedom to do that with my fictitious ad agency? To have them get there before DDB did?” (laughs) Maybe American Airlines saw it and told DDB they wanted it. Who knows?

This is something that I've wrestled with, working on my sixties-era story, and it was just so, so striking to see this theory that I understood inherently, laid out so precisely. Taking ownership of your work as long as you understand exactly what you're taking ownership of.


DavidS - Oct 27, 2008 9:08:44 am PDT #1779 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

This is something that I've wrestled with, working on my sixties-era story, and it was just so, so striking to see this theory that I understood inherently, laid out so precisely. Taking ownership of your work as long as you understand exactly what you're taking ownership of.

He goes into that point even more explicitly defending his use of non-period music in the show. He wants access to that dimension that those particular songs provide - both musically and lyrically. He's not just presenting the era - he's making plain that he's taking an aesthetic stance outside the era and commenting on it.

At the same time, he kind of earns that by not cheating the narrative or letting history do all the dramatic work for him. It's telling that he'd use Marilyn's death as a major arc turning point and avoid the JKF assassination.


Barb - Oct 27, 2008 9:12:27 am PDT #1780 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

He wants access to that dimension that those particular songs provide - both musically and lyrically. He's not just presenting the era - he's making plain that he's taking an aesthetic stance outside the era and commenting on it.

Exactly—he uses the music almost as an omniscient narrator. And I agree on what you're saying about his use of seminal events. It makes it all the more interesting to ponder where, exactly, he's going to pick up next season.


amych - Oct 27, 2008 9:15:51 am PDT #1781 of 11998
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'm'a stick with Clay-Liston. Not because I have any evidence, mind you.


lisah - Oct 27, 2008 9:16:04 am PDT #1782 of 11998
Punishingly Intricate

oh, and did anyone else wince when Trudy said "If you loved me, you'd want to be with me" and Pete said "that's true" and then she just kissed him and they went to load the car. whoa.

But I think he was planning (or she was hoping he was planning) to come down on the train later anyway. He wasn't planning on going in the car with her. That's why she gave him cash in case the "trains aren't working."

I LOVED Duck being blindside by Don not having a contract. It was mentioned, but casually, a bunch of times and it just highlighted how out of place Duck is there.


lisah - Oct 27, 2008 9:17:30 am PDT #1783 of 11998
Punishingly Intricate

Oh, also, it felt like they cut the show for it to run ads normally. There were some awkward transitions I thought (like Betty going from looking at the store window to being inside the bar).


Vortex - Oct 27, 2008 9:19:07 am PDT #1784 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Oh, also, it felt like they cut the show for it to run ads normally.

oh, yeah, they totally did. The transitions were very abrupt in places, but would have been fine for commercial breaks.