My TiVo didn't record MM last night! It must have been too full, I did a purge of other shows this morning and all of a sudden a recording popped up right then and there, so I watched. Good thing AMC does a zillion repeats of the show.

And I gotta agree with the OMG, Holy Shit and all that HSQ stuff! I never thought Roger would do something like that and for it to be Jane??? Eep!

I feel bad that Peggy got her new position the way she did, but happy that Don is recognizing her work. I just don't get how he can see Peggy's potential, yet be so clueless when it comes to Betty.

And Jane totally confuses me. If she's been doing the nasty with Roger, why has she been sucking up to Don so much? Buying him shirts? I don't believe she's just being helpful, she wants/ed something from him. Roger's just a stopgap, if you ask me.

Do you all think Jane was the one who told Roger about Don living not at home? Rather than Roger figuring it out himself?

I just don't get how he can see Peggy's potential, yet be so clueless when it comes to Betty.

I think it's one of those ways in which you see the clear dichotomy between Dick Whitman and the Don Draper persona. I don't know that he ever saw Betty as anything beyond the type of wife he should have who would give him the household and children that Don Draper should have. And because with Betty he has to maintain the Don Draper persona the most stringently, he's even more distant and removed from her than from almost anyone else. I think most everyone else in his world has at least seen a hint of Dick Whitman-- but not Betty.

Peggy though, in some ways, is his mirror. He sees himself in her, I think, in a lot of ways.

Do you all think Jane was the one who told Roger about Don living not at home? Rather than Roger figuring it out himself?

Dude-- that hadn't occurred to me, but I bet you're right! Not that it matters, in the scheme of things, but it wouldn't surprise me. I suspect that Jane would see it as some sort of leverage.

I suspect that Jane would see it as some sort of leverage.

This. I think Jane was just as surprised at Roger's decision as anyone else. Roger is just a means to an end and I'm not sure she's going to be happy with what she reaped.

And because with Betty he has to maintain the Don Draper persona the most stringently, he's even more distant and removed from her than from almost anyone else.

That's about all I can think of, too. Which is why he's so intent on denying culpability. Although, he did say to Roger that he felt bad sometimes after saying he didn't. I think he's trying to stay so far away from "Archibald Whitman" that he's actually created something just as bad, but in a different way. And he's incapable of recognizing that.

Do you all think Jane was the one who told Roger about Don living not at home? Rather than Roger figuring it out himself?

Yeah, that struck me late last night, too.

IMO, there is no way Roger is that observant. Jane had to tell him.

I love Boomtown, too, although I just discovered it. It's a tiny bit like a network "Wire"(in the visual novel sense.) Re: Mad Men I would so be Jane, in that 'verse. Letting loose some tiny fact in innocence that starts a shitstorm. I bet Roger *could* notice that. He knows a bit about marital strife and Don has been going around looking...untended, lately. I was impressed that Carla offered Betty a shoulder, instead of treating her like Crazy White Lady. Although maybe this is too big to make fun of her for. Joan is "Miss Holloway", right? Did Roger tell Mona he was leaving for Joan, or did she jump to conclusions?

Letting loose some tiny fact in innocence that starts a shitstorm.

Uh...I don't think it was so innocent.

Ok, I've missed some episodes this year. But if I had done it, it would have been.