Angel: I appreciate you guys looking out for Connor all summer. It's just—he's confused. He needs time. That's all. Fred: Right. Time, and some corporal punishment with a large heavy mallet. Not that I'm bitter.

'Just Rewards (2)'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Glamcookie - Apr 23, 2013 7:35:49 am PDT #10770 of 11998
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I believe they do want me to sympathize with him at least a little bit. Why else show his shitty childhood scenes? Also, in Monday's ep Sylvia said she, "...prayed for him to find peace." Poor wealthy, successful, good-looking, top-of-the-food-chain Don. Ugh! They need to do something - anything - to make me give a damn about his character at this point. He used to be more complex but now he's just a straight up entitled asshole. More Peggy! More Joan! More Betty! More Sally!


Polter-Cow - Apr 23, 2013 7:32:45 pm PDT #10771 of 11998
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It was a very plotty episode - not so much with the recurring motifs and metaphors that they've been prone to over the last couple seasons.

I like when things happen! So I liked it quite a bit except for agreeing with all the discontent with Don, whom I've generally liked and found interesting as a character, but the way he treats Megan, ugh. Be fucking happy for her success, for fuck's sake.

"I tolerate it, but I won't encourage it."
"You're perfect."

Megan has low standards for perfection.


erikaj - Apr 24, 2013 5:19:29 am PDT #10772 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!

Well, for someone who also seems to hate himself, Don is a narcissist.(And I do still care about him, but it was always annoying that all he thought would fix everything was a hipper scene and a hotter woman. Even if I liked the psychologist better anyway.) I'm not so sure that Don is capable of that kind of give-and-take, at least not with somebody he's married to. Megan has rejecting parents that have made her really insecure.


erikaj - Apr 24, 2013 5:27:27 am PDT #10773 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!

He sort of deserves to be wearing medallions and too-cool shirts that don't fit around his expanding middle trying to chat up young girls in the Regal Beagle in a few years, but somehow, if it happened that way, it would seem really sad.(Sometimes things are sad, of course, especially on this show.)


Jesse - Apr 27, 2013 1:00:45 pm PDT #10774 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So Matthew Weiner doesn't dislike Don, and doesn't think we should, either. [link]


sj - Apr 27, 2013 2:07:41 pm PDT #10775 of 11998
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I find I enjoy Mad Men much more when I don't read what Matthew Weiner wants us to get out of the show.


Jessica - Apr 28, 2013 5:47:16 pm PDT #10776 of 11998
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

For non-New-Yorkers...the Second Avenue subway construction began last year. HA. Sorry, Peggy.


Jessica - Apr 28, 2013 6:43:38 pm PDT #10777 of 11998
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Okay, wow - I'd just started the ep when I wrote that last post. That was some powerful stuff.


Vortex - Apr 28, 2013 6:49:59 pm PDT #10778 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I'm still processing, but I found it kind of unrealistic. I find it hard to believe that no one said anything nasty or offensive. Even Roger. Suddenly, the casual racism that we've seen from everyone went away?


Typo Boy - Apr 28, 2013 8:24:45 pm PDT #10779 of 11998
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Have not watched tonight's show but about Don and change. I think there was one important thing that gave the illusion of change but was not.

Back when Don was married to Betty, she was a woman he could control (until the end) but the vibrant independence that attracted him before he married her vanished when she became a housewife. He dominated her, but was bored by her. The women he cheated on her with were women with lives of their own, women he could not control. When he married Megan, and she proved so talented as copywriter and dealing with clients it was the perfect situation for him. Here was a women busy doing work he found fascinating (the same work he did, but working for him). He had a lively interesting woman he could still dominate.

But when Megan moved to acting that changed. She remained interesting, but now she is independent, with a life apart from him he can't control. So now he turned to cheating again. Hec pointing out that this particular profession involves so much time away from Don that it would have destroyed marriages even to better men who shared the attitudes of the time. But in Don's case it would not have mattered if she became independent with something with much more flexible schedules - freelance drawing that could have been done at home or something. Just spending time in a life he could not have controlled would have been too threatening to Don. He can't really deal with a long term romantic relationship with a woman where he is not totally in control - where she has space of her own. Maybe in professional relationship, or platonic friendship, but not a long term sexual or romantic relationship. That is one reason why none of his affairs ever lasted for the very long term. Women who interested him were not women he could control completely and sooner or later that would lead to the affair ending if nothing else did.