Mal: Does.. um.. does this seem kind of tight? Kaylee: Shows off your backside.

'Shindig'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


§ ita § - Aug 20, 2012 1:15:44 pm PDT #10116 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I seem to have fallen into the habit of giving John a review of the episode and the preview, but not about anything important at all.

Here's what I've learnt as a result of this week:

  • They liked the muttonchops *a lot*
  • there's a long version of the butt-slide across the car, and an animated GIF might be in the offing

My vote on the second is pretty damned clear.

And, hey! Another think coming! Just saying!

And they did quell my "can't con an honest man" issues. It wasn't used as a moral high ground, or a crutch, or an obstacle. Or even, really, a shared viewpoint. I really liked what they were doing there, in fact. Usually they just magically know the weakness. It's interesting when the person they need to influence isn't the bad person, and doesn't have the obvious places to get traction.


Zenkitty - Aug 20, 2012 1:24:04 pm PDT #10117 of 11998
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

And, hey! Another think coming! Just saying!

I noticed that!

And they did quell my "can't con an honest man" issues. It wasn't used as a moral high ground, or a crutch, or an obstacle. Or even, really, a shared viewpoint. I really liked what they were doing there, in fact. Usually they just magically know the weakness. It's interesting when the person they need to influence isn't the bad person, and doesn't have the obvious places to get traction.

I liked that, too.


Typo Boy - Aug 20, 2012 2:29:03 pm PDT #10118 of 11998
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

So it works because it is not "you can't cheat an honest man" but "you have to work harder to cheat an honest man"?


§ ita § - Aug 20, 2012 2:48:49 pm PDT #10119 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For me, I think the issue was mainly that they weren't actually trying to cheat him. They were trying to get him to do something they wanted him to do, and they had to work out how to lead his way.

When people say "that wasn't a con, then" if I suggest something that works against honest people, I roll my eyes, but I think this really really wasn't a con.

I mean, they were pretty much working the con in convince more than the con in confidence. And Nate mostly redirected Eliot, which is what John did to me when I initially mentioned it.

(I got into this argument elsewhere, and the person defending it said that cons hinge on expectation of profit without sufficient investment, and I asked--what about fake charities? It took three go rounds for him to say a) that's a con and b) fine, then. I did also try and get him to call Kevin Bacon dishonest for investing with Madoff, but it's amazing how people can ignore enumerated lists when they have a point to make.)


Vortex - Aug 20, 2012 3:28:11 pm PDT #10120 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I'm wondering what Nate's deal is. I think that he has a terminal illness (like say, the one that his kid died from), and he's grooming Eliot to take over as mastermind.


§ ita § - Aug 20, 2012 4:14:37 pm PDT #10121 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Breaking Bad--this GIF will represent Awkward! to me for some time hence: [link]


Zenkitty - Aug 20, 2012 4:30:20 pm PDT #10122 of 11998
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I'm wondering what Nate's deal is. I think that he has a terminal illness (like say, the one that his kid died from), and he's grooming Eliot to take over as mastermind.

I also feel that he's preparing the crew for him to leave. I hope he isn't dying! Good grief, no.


Vortex - Aug 20, 2012 4:30:59 pm PDT #10123 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Okay, for the first time, Peter from Warehouse 13 made me laugh. "That's right, girlfriend, I am the sassy best friend!" Usually, he annoys the crap out of me.


-t - Aug 20, 2012 4:44:26 pm PDT #10124 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

this GIF will represent Awkward! to me for some time hence

Good one. That was epic awkward.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 20, 2012 5:58:19 pm PDT #10125 of 11998
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

And they did quell my "can't con an honest man" issues. It wasn't used as a moral high ground, or a crutch, or an obstacle. Or even, really, a shared viewpoint. I really liked what they were doing there, in fact. Usually they just magically know the weakness. It's interesting when the person they need to influence isn't the bad person, and doesn't have the obvious places to get traction.

Also, it was pretty much only Elliot expressing the view, and he's not coming from the con background. And it was kinda disproved to him.

I did find his slideways look at Nate at the end a bit ominous. I couldn't tell if it was worry, or something else (and I really hope they don't go THERE).