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'Why We Fight'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


sumi - Jun 06, 2008 8:14:50 am PDT #5328 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

Eric Ripert has a blog!

Avec Eric


sumi - Jun 06, 2008 8:16:10 am PDT #5329 of 23273
Art Crawl!!!

And Grub Street talks to Antonia.


meara - Jun 06, 2008 8:18:40 am PDT #5330 of 23273

OK, so I'm just watching last night's Vegas SYTYCD:

Kinda painful to see, because now it's actually people who are mostly good dancers, but more interesting--THIS, I could watch in more and more detail for hours, really...I'd love to actually BE there! Though the scenes of trying to learn the choreography in a pack of 100 people makes me *cringe*, I can't imagine trying to do that, how can you possibly see what's going on from the back??

I was surprised that I really really liked Tyce's Broadway choreography. That's a genre that when they do it for the show, it's usually annoyingly cheesy, but what they did for the auditions looked fun. Though I noticed, looking at some stuff from last year, that Pasha and Sara's "West Coast Swing", which is a genre that *dancing*, I find to be incredibly hot and sexy, seeing them do it it was so over the top and ridiculous that I didn't at all enjoy watching it (though perhaps that was because Benji choreographed it), sometimes it's more about putting TOO MUCH into it for a performance than because of what a dance is like...it's not that I don't like "Broadway", it's that I don't like how much fancy they put into it to try and make people like it?

OK, that last "sentence" got a little out of control there. Um. But I think you get what I mean.

I'm only halfway through so I'm sure I"ll have more comments.

On a different note: I'm getting some folks together to watch the show, and want to suck some newbies in. Can you name some super memorable dances you'd show them if they are skeptical about this show?

Ones I'm thinking already, though it's clearly biased towards Season 2:

Zombie Dance
Top Four SexyBack
Heidi and Peanut's Bench Dance for a contemp
maybe the Ivan/Allyson umbrella one, for a hiphop?
Why am I drawing a big blank on Season 3? I just saw it! I know I loved things in it!

I need some nice ballroom. A latin? I loved Danny and Anya's waltz, but I'm not sure if that's a good choice. I didn't see Season 1, not sure if there's anythign good from that.


bon bon - Jun 06, 2008 8:20:53 am PDT #5331 of 23273
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Season three- the table dance with Sabra and Neil, the two princes dance with Neil and Danny, and the hummingbird dance with Hok and _______.


tiggy - Jun 06, 2008 8:25:34 am PDT #5332 of 23273
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Kameron and Lacey's contemporary to Dancing from top 20! i also really, really liked Lacey/Danny's samba to Hip Hip Chin Chin.

I actually prefer Allison/Ivan's contemporary to Why over the umbrella one.

for silliness, how about Benji/Travis hip hop from the finale or even Benji/Donyelle's hip hop from the top 20.

also? i'm really put out that they didn't put Evan in the top 20. i am happy Twitch and William are there though. this season is chock full of contemporary!


meara - Jun 06, 2008 8:26:12 am PDT #5333 of 23273

Oh, yes, the hummingbird dance with Hok and Jaimie, I was thinking of that one. And I did consider the table dance.

I've forgotten the two princes dance, but I know I have it on my TiVo, it was in the last few shows.


tiggy - Jun 06, 2008 8:27:15 am PDT #5334 of 23273
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

what about group numbers?


meara - Jun 06, 2008 8:29:10 am PDT #5335 of 23273

I actually prefer Allison/Ivan's contemporary to Why over the umbrella one

OH!!! I'd forgotten that one! How could I have forgotten that one??? I loved that one! I'll have to see if I can track it down on YouTube somewhere.

for silliness, how about Benji/Travis hip hop from the finale or even Benji/Donyelle's hip hop from the top 20.

Oh, I liked both of those. The Benji/Donyelle made me like Benji at the beginning so much more than I would have, to start. And the Benji/Travis just made me think of a drag king number, really. Which made me adore it. (God, Season 2 was so my favorite...)

I think I liked that Samba dance, but didn't like the SONG "Hip Hip Chin Chin", was my problem--I was rewatching that the other day...


meara - Jun 06, 2008 8:44:03 am PDT #5336 of 23273

...I so wish I could go to Vegas for those auditions. I mean, I know I couldn't POSSIBLY keep up. But I just would love to watch. Damn.

Though I'd probably want too badly to bitchslap people.

I feel bad for people who got cut or had to dance for their lives just cause they ended up in groups with shitty choreography. The groups they showed with awesome choreography were cool...but they weren't necessarily better *dancers*, really.

Trying to follow Mia's "oom bak koo KAAHAH!" choreography? Oh god.


flea - Jun 06, 2008 9:36:35 am PDT #5337 of 23273
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There's a Benji/Heidi latin dance to black mambo that is incredible, and for a group number, the Rama Lama zombie thing.