You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


bon bon - Apr 10, 2008 4:40:13 pm PDT #4404 of 23273
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Oh, Survivor. I can't deny they should have voted out Eliza -- she failed the social game on the most basic level (even though they never really showed us how annoying she is, except when she was talking to Parvati) and she couldn't win under any circumstances. But now I pretty much hate everyone. Holy shit is Jason the dimmest dimwit that ever dimmed! Wow!


tiggy - Apr 10, 2008 4:46:11 pm PDT #4405 of 23273
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

what exactly is wrong with it, le nub? it's no different than someone like Chris Martin writing "Fair Trade" on his hand for a performance. i seriously don't get it.


brenda m - Apr 10, 2008 4:50:42 pm PDT #4406 of 23273
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Seriously, bon. I swear I'm about ready to root for James. Fucking James. Help.

what exactly is wrong with it, le nub?

It made me seriously cringe, how serious and overdramatic he was being about the whole reveal. And I don't dislike him on a usual night. (Though this week he really was ghastly.)


le nubian - Apr 10, 2008 4:55:52 pm PDT #4407 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

yeah, I'm with brenda.

I must admit, I didn't see Chris Martin do this, but I wouldn't like it either. If this were a photograph, then I might buy the writing on the hand, but you are using your voice as medium. Is there a problem just saying "please give?"

I just thought it was really cheesy and unnecessary as performed Tuesday night. It didn't help that I hated his song too.


meara - Apr 10, 2008 4:56:43 pm PDT #4408 of 23273

I don't WANT to like Fergie's music, but the damn tunes are so catchy!

On a semi-related to reality tv note: WTF happened to TWOP? It's all weird and different, and I don't like it. BOO.

I was so excited to see all the SYTYCD kids, I don't watch Idol, but I tuned in for five minutes just to see that, because it was mentioned here!


tiggy - Apr 10, 2008 4:56:53 pm PDT #4409 of 23273
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

well...he was singing a song that he specifically picked for his brother and a little girl with cancer he's been in contact with that told him he was her favorite idol. something like Idol Gives Back is a cause he feels very passionate about and i suppose i just know way more than the average watcher does. because i know he has a cancer ribbon tattooed on his chest and he has his brother's initials tattooed on his bicep. he's just generally a guy that gets involved and i guess i just don't understand how that is a bad thing.

it's possible i need to step away from this thread until Idol is over because i'm feeling pretty protective of DCook. moreso than i was about Blake last year.


SailAweigh - Apr 10, 2008 4:58:51 pm PDT #4410 of 23273
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

smug/pretentious/assworthy

Oh, say for example, instead of replying honestly to Ryan's question about what he thought of Simon's opinion of his singing he wondered how many words similar to "arrogant and smug" Simon could come up with. Despite the fact Simon can be quite harsh, he is usually quite right. And, I'm guessing, David Cook thinks Simon is right, too, because he didn't do anything to disabuse anyone of that very notion, but added to it.


Amy - Apr 10, 2008 5:05:33 pm PDT #4411 of 23273
Because books.

I don't get the David Cook ... dislike either, honestly. I may just be seeing him as shy and a little cool instead of smug or arrogant, but regardless, he's the only left I could see myself listening to after this is over.

::pets tiggy::


tiggy - Apr 10, 2008 5:09:07 pm PDT #4412 of 23273
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

honestly, Sail? i probably would have responded the same way David did. deflect with humour. how was he supposed to answer the question? "why, no Ryan. i don't believe i am pompous." well...that would have stopped the naysayers!

Amy, you are me. i see him as shy and humble and glad to be there.


SailAweigh - Apr 10, 2008 5:19:36 pm PDT #4413 of 23273
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

"why, no Ryan. i don't believe i am pompous." well...that would have stopped the naysayers!

"I'm sorry Simon sees me as pompous, I'm not trying to be. I think, as has been pointed out, I could improve by....etc."

Being a smartass in response to a smartass doesn't make him look any more than a smartass. A smug smartass.