River: They weren't cows inside. They were waiting to be, but they forgot. Now they see the sky and they remember what they are. Mal: Is it bad that what she said made perfect sense to me?

'Safe'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


askye - Dec 17, 2007 4:12:54 am PST #2923 of 23273
Thrive to spite them

I don't really like Todd, and I don't think he played the game as well as he thought, but from day 1 he was playing to win and I respect that. I really didn't get Denise playing for 4th, but what Burnett did was really cool.


Jesse - Dec 17, 2007 4:48:35 am PST #2924 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh Jesse. Your optimism is endearing.

Heh. I'm just trying to think out the logistics. Could summer programming actually be WORSE than Big Brother?? And I love Big Brother.


Jesse - Dec 17, 2007 5:01:36 am PST #2925 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Scrappy - Dec 17, 2007 8:25:12 am PST #2926 of 23273
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I was in the ABC (anyone but Courtney) camp with this season. I thought Todd deserved to win, ESPECIALLY after the way he handled the jury. Very well-played by him, and he stole it form Amanda, who should not have played the Nice Girl card, after not acting like a nice girl during the game. Better if she had been more honest about her game-playing and mentioned her physicality and dedication during challenges.

I liked this season a lot and thought it was one of the best.


kat perez - Dec 17, 2007 3:49:52 pm PST #2927 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I am the anti-Scrappy. I was bored by this season from the very beginning and it just kept going strong with the boring straight through to Todd FTW. I coulda had a V-8.

Although, of that final three, Todd was my number one choice. And he really worked the jury well. In fact, both Todd and Courtney had great jury performances, some of the better ones I've seen anyway. While Amanda had a crap-tastic jury meltdown. (And now I have to love PG just a little bit for calling her on the doe-eyes!)

The jury wasn't even amusingly bitter and/or crazy. Just bland. When the best you can work up on is Lunch Lady outrage . . . well, it's no "snakes and rats" or even an Edgardo "Don't talk to me when I ask you to talk to me!" And when they brought the whole group back, I swear I didn't remember who half of them where.

Bring on the half-stars, I say. Although, I am a little bit perturbed that Survivor is now stealing ideas from Real World/Road Rules challenges (Fresh Meat, anyone?). I am hoping for some good folks to come back. My dream would be to bring back all of the Aitu 4 + Jonathan(but I don't think anyone but Ozzy would be down), a little Earl, a little Yau Man, a little Ian and yes, even Tom (dirty bird, but that is one fine looking man). Throw in a little Dani, a little Hogeboom(?), a whole lotta Cirie. That would be fun. Of course, we'll probably get Rocky and Candace and a whole lotta other douchebags.


Scrappy - Dec 17, 2007 3:59:26 pm PST #2928 of 23273
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Bored? But this season had the whole Jamie/fake immunity idol deliciousness. And James with no shirt. And Crazy Dave.


kat perez - Dec 17, 2007 4:09:23 pm PST #2929 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Bored. I thought the Jamie/fake immunity idol was dull as dishwater. By the time she made it to tribal, it seemed clear that she was 99.9% convinced that it wasn't an idol and just played it in a "What the hell? Just in case." kinda way. And then Probst, being the he-man, woman-hater that he is, decided to make a big stink about it. Crazy Dave? Swear to bejeebus that I did not even remember who he was when he first came out. And then when they showed the naked thing, I just thought Hatch did it first and did it better. James was very, very pretty. But this was a man who had not one, but two idols and couldn't find a way to make that suspenseful in any way. Aaron? Who? Sherea? Who? WWE girl? Had totally forgotten her until she showed up again. And the end pre-ordained from the time of the merge.

So. painfully. bored.


megan walker - Dec 17, 2007 4:15:07 pm PST #2930 of 23273
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

both Todd and Courtney had great jury performances, some of the better ones I've seen anyway. While Amanda had a crap-tastic jury meltdown. (And now I have to love PG just a little bit for calling her on the doe-eyes!)

I totally agree with this. I'd say I was pro-Amanda before the jury but she really didn't do herself any favors there. And, before the jury, I would have put good money down on Courtney getting zero votes. The minute it ended, my housemate and I knew she had pulled in at least one or two.

I think it was a pretty good season, although I hate the concept of the immunity idols and how they work.

I really would like to see a twist that makes it more about surviving. It just doesn't seem like people have any real incentive to keep the workhorse/survivalist/strongman and you end up with people like Courtney in the finale. For example, I would love to have them know upfront that they weren't merging, or that they had to live with the jury members after being voted off. Anything that would really change the game from the standard "get an alliance of four, vote off the strong people around merge-time" that it has become.


kat perez - Dec 17, 2007 4:23:08 pm PST #2931 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

or that they had to live with the jury members after being voted off.

Oooh. That could be fun! I agree that they need to shake things up some. The immunity idol hardly ever pays off. (Hi, Terry. I'm talking to you!)


Ailleann - Dec 17, 2007 5:48:23 pm PST #2932 of 23273
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Is anyone watching the Clash of the Choirs show?