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Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


bon bon - Nov 16, 2007 6:40:54 am PST #2593 of 23273
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Yeah, I feel disappointed never to have gotten much out of Frosti. I think the challenge designers are generally brilliant, but they have not favored the athletic so far, and I miss the water challenges. Cook Islands had much better challenges.


askye - Nov 16, 2007 6:57:10 am PST #2594 of 23273
Thrive to spite them

I think over all Survivor does better closer to the ocean. There's more a chance to get food so you have less of the starving aspect (unless people just can't get the hang of fishing) and the challenges are generally more interesting with the water aspects.


Nora Deirdre - Nov 16, 2007 7:32:42 am PST #2595 of 23273
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Well, they have had water challenges this season (and quite a bit of fishing too!)

Very meh on last night's episode. I get frustrated when people don't at least TRY to think stategicially. Frosti and Erik's strategy both seemed to be... um, maybe they think I'm cuter? So I can stay another week? Hell, it's a 50-50 chance, right?

There is some serious weakness in that "dominant" alliance that could have been very well exploited by Frosti, Erik, and Pei Ghee. But Frosti and Erik seem to think it's better to hang with the cool kids than be seen talking to the pariah. I do *not* understand why they didn't try to get James out again! I don't understand these folks.

Denise, why EXACTLY are *you* protected by sticking with the dude with the Hidden Immunity Idols?

People sure do get some loopy thinking going once they are starving and exxhausted.


megan walker - Nov 16, 2007 8:12:52 am PST #2596 of 23273
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I do *not* understand why they didn't try to get James out again! I don't understand these folks.

Seriously. And the primarily alliance could have gotten Frosti, Erik, and/or Pei Ghee to do the dirty work, while they still voted for Frosti or Erik in case James played an idol.


bon bon - Nov 16, 2007 8:42:31 am PST #2597 of 23273
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I think it's too hard to vote James out. I can't recall how the numbers worked out, but I remember seeing a persuasive summary -- something like you have to have two targets, who cannot be privy to your plans; you're going to need at least five votes-- three for James and two for the other guy, in case James votes for someone else-- and there's always a risk that someone will defect. In the case of James, that person can join James in the final tribal and have a good case that James just got lucky with his idols. Or PG, Frosti and Erik (probably two of whom would needed for this plan) could turn James and make sure to vote someone out of James's former alliance. I could be wrong, but I think that's the problem.


askye - Nov 16, 2007 9:25:33 am PST #2598 of 23273
Thrive to spite them

Todd's best chance to get James out was when they voted out JR. They had the element of surprise on their hands -- James wasn't going to believe they'd vote against him over PG, Erik, or Frosti so he would have been totally blindsided and wouldn't have used the immunity idols. Todd was sure the other players were going to vote for James, plus JR came up with idea and Todd wouldn't have even been blamed for it. Of course he wouldn't have gotten credit for it, which is why he went after JR but it was a stupid thing to do.

It's too hard to try and figure out a way to throw over James, because they'd have to figure out a way to tell people and keep the knowledge away from James, which is hard on Survivor.


lisah - Nov 16, 2007 2:18:53 pm PST #2599 of 23273
Punishingly Intricate

He's already my designer to hate.

Awww...I kind of love Christian. But probably mostly because he is a local boy. My fave dress was the b & w & turquoise one although it was maybe a little safe. It's just something I could see wearing.


askye - Nov 16, 2007 2:51:01 pm PST #2600 of 23273
Thrive to spite them

My two favorite dresses was the purple one by the heavy set guy and the white and black fabric with the blue trim.


Vortex - Nov 16, 2007 8:44:47 pm PST #2601 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

yes, I liked both of those. I love rami's because I'm a sucker for good draping and soft fabrics. They're more forgiving.


quester - Nov 17, 2007 3:19:16 pm PST #2602 of 23273
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

The loser and the rain-goddess were the only real disasters in this challenge. All of the others were made well, and some were quite good. I think this bodes well for the competition.