Inara: Who's winning? Simon: I can't tell. They don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.

'Bushwhacked'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


Vortex - Aug 23, 2012 3:12:27 pm PDT #19757 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yeah, guess what, this show is racist!

I don't know that it's racism necessarily as prejudiced against hip hop and other forms of unchoreographed dance, i.e. dance without rules. They like their rules and things to judge "objectively" on.

Of course, it so happens that the vast majority of hip hoppers are of color.


Jesse - Aug 23, 2012 3:16:27 pm PDT #19758 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But the BROOM.


-t - Aug 23, 2012 3:24:33 pm PDT #19759 of 23273
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Was that a reference to this number ? I didn't really take in the details of the group number, having Tice in there was really distracting - I didn't recognize him so I spent a lot of that dance wondering if there was a whole contestant that I had completely forgotten.


quester - Aug 23, 2012 3:38:41 pm PDT #19760 of 23273
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Oh my! Jacob! Kathryn! Alex! The only thing that could have made that better was if Eleanor was on the show!

ITA!

On the opening number, what was that shit with giving Cyrus a broom? I mean, I know he can't dance Gene Kelly, but STILL. The black man gets to be the janitor??

Inorite?


quester - Aug 23, 2012 3:41:51 pm PDT #19761 of 23273
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Annnnnd.... I forgot all about voting! I didn't remember it until I was at work this morning.


Jesse - Aug 23, 2012 4:09:09 pm PDT #19762 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Was that a reference to this number ?

Probably, except Cyrus was just pushing the broom around. Due to, you know, not being able to dance like Gene Kelly.


kat perez - Aug 23, 2012 4:13:52 pm PDT #19763 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

So Gene Kelly did dance with a mop and a broom in Thousands Cheer. You can see it here. And Tasty was trying to do a Gene Kelly tribute, so there's that. As for why it had to be Cyrus instead of say Big Pasty 2, well, everyone is a little bit racist, no? And I do think this show often displays a little bit of racism or at the very least white privilege in the way they talk about hip hop as a genre and "untrained, street dancers" most of whom just happen to be black. Tasty could've had someone else do the broom part or just not referenced it at all as Gene Kelly has had a ton of far more iconic dances. I still don't think he was trying to be racist. He was more likely thinking about what the hell he was going to do with a dancer who technically could not hang with the other kids in the number so better to give him a prop and have him walk around a lot rather than Cedric him and sit him down somewhere upstage. Of course, he could've had Cyrus walk around with an umbrella instead a la Singin' in the Rain Gene. And now we're right back to a little bit racist.

The bigger shame to me is that the choreographers continue to not push Cyrus in any way. Even Cedric didn't start getting Cedric'ed until he had shown for a couple of weeks that he just could not pick up choreography. Cyrus has been thrown softballs from the jump and this week was just the latest attempt by the group dance choreographers to figure out how to make him not dance in the group dance. The only one who really didn't do it was Christopher Scott and he is primarily a hip hop choreographer and therefore accustomed to working with "non-trained" dancers and helping them to pick up intricate choreography and learn to dance in an ensemble (which is probably not at all familiar for most hip hop kids). Sigh. It's depressing.


Jesse - Aug 23, 2012 4:15:46 pm PDT #19764 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I still don't think he was trying to be racist. He was more likely thinking about what the hell he was going to do with a dancer who technically could not hang with the other kids in the number so better to give him a prop and have him walk around a lot rather than Cedric him and sit him down somewhere upstage.

Absolutely. But just take a minute and think about your decisions and what they may look like, you know?

And also the rest of what you said.


kat perez - Aug 23, 2012 4:16:36 pm PDT #19765 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Yes, but it's Tasty. My expectations are not that high.


Jesse - Aug 23, 2012 4:19:54 pm PDT #19766 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm just over it. And I was riding so high on the calling out of Nice White Lady racism on Political Animals last week!