Which one was supposed to be plus size? It didn't seem like any of them really were.

well, if a model is a size 0, a plus size must be like a size 4 or gasp a 6!!

Infuriates me when the "plus size" models are still smaller than the average American size (14!). Almost as much as when I see a catlogue that lists "XL" as a 12.

Nah, the past plus size girls on ANTM have all been in the 10-14 category. Toccara and Robin are the ones that always sticks out in my mind. Of course, whether or not 12-14 is really plus size is debatable, but a lot of agencies classify any model size 8 and up as plus size, so there you go. From those pictures, I didn't see any girl that looked to be more than a size 8, which is just weak if that's the case.

Nah, the past plus size girls on ANTM have all been in the 10-14 category. Toccara and Robin are the ones that always sticks out in my mind. Of course, whether or not 12-14 is really plus size is debatable, but a lot of agencies classify any model size 8 and up as plus size, so there you go. From those pictures, I didn't see any girl that looked to be more than a size 8, which is just weak if that's the case.

not to mention that some of the girls may wear a size 10 or 12 because of height or broadness of shouldner, not actual body size.

Yeah--there are definitely thin girls who are a size 10 or 12 because they're six freakin' feet tall...and maybe have some boob!

But yes, word has it Sara is the plus size girl--not sure if it's how she's posed or what, but she doesn't look much larger than the others. I'm suddenly reminded of that girl in another season who was told she EITHER needed to lose or gain weight--she wasn't big enough for plus size but not small enough for regular model!

Has anyone been watching "A Model Life", Petra Nemcova's ANTM? It's been interesting because it's so much more realistic--they're actually trying to be models, it's not as much a competition or anything.

I remember in high school it aggravated me no end - my sister was just naturally skinny. 5'7" and wore a size five (back then about as small as they made clothes) but had to buy size nine jeans to get enough length.

Yes, I buy my suit pants one or two sizes too big to get the length.

Here's something I would love to see (from the Shane Sparks interview at TWOP): [link]

Daniel: Do you have any ideas for next year's routines yet?

Sparks: Uh, no, but I know the fact that they let me get really creative with everything, I know I'm going to be more, like, movie-oriented and TV-oriented with some of my choreography.

Daniel: I got one for you.

Sparks: What?

Daniel: A routine based on the movie The Warriors....

Daniel: See, you're going to be thinking about it now. The Baseball Furies are going to be in there…I'm telling you…

Sparks: I just gotta find the song, and I gotta get the bottles to make the cling-cling-cling, you know what I mean? Only thing I have to worry about is I have to worry about copywritten stuff, but I could -- instead of saying "Warriors," I could say something else, you know what I mean? I gotta do things that won't get us in trouble, but that's a dope thought.

It's been an ANTM marathon on MTV all day, and I totally forgot how entertaining Jade and Danielle and the rest of them are! Sample fourfour recap for demonstration: [link] "Forget the gap, sucka, I'm goin' to Thailand!"

I'm watching the Project Runway marathon on Bravo. I missed it when it first aired, because I gave up my cable for awhile. I'm sooo happy to have Tim Gunn on my TV again! who cares about the designers!