And Kaylee, what the hell's goin' on in the engine room? Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

Mal ,'The Train Job'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 23, 2007 1:34:57 pm PDT #9597 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Out of sheer delirium and an attempt to not get into a huge thing with the roomie who was conveniently absent, I let them...until one of them chirped, "I know, let's tie her roommate up! Tee hee."

It's just as well I lived at home and never roomed with anyone in college, because detectives would still be trying to find out what I did with all the bodies if anything like that had ever happened.


Sheryl - Jul 23, 2007 1:35:11 pm PDT #9598 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Weather's nice here. (Sorry, I don't have anything to add on the interviewing topic. It's been 7 years since I last did interviews, and I hope not to have to do any for a while longer)


ChiKat - Jul 23, 2007 1:44:18 pm PDT #9599 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Speaking as another interviewer, Robin gives very good advice (and, really, are any of us surprised by that??).

in a gently-couched sort of way, what my circumstances are (since I"m looking for a job with relocation)--do I rent or own, do I have someone else who would also need to be relocated, etc e'tc.

I think for a recruiter those are fair questions. Some of the jobs I recently interviewed for had a residency requirement, so I was asked if I was aware of the residency requirement and would it be an issue. Again, fair question. They didn't any questions in any more detail than that.


§ ita § - Jul 23, 2007 1:51:47 pm PDT #9600 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Even bad interviewers want to hire good people. Good, of course, varies from job to job and company to company.

You're too kind. I've seen enough interviewers not know what good is, because they're not familiar enough with the position and there's an essential disconnect there.

You don't have to be glib or fake, but you do have to be smart and able to roll with the punches. In essence, interviewing is having a conversation with a stranger and trying to show off your best traits--something that is not natural but is worth practicing and learning to do well.

It's great if you can have a good conversation with a stranger and show yourself off, but it might also be irrelevant to your job duties.


Burrell - Jul 23, 2007 1:54:33 pm PDT #9601 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Your points, Robin, jibe well with my rather limited experience interviewing for academic jobs.


sarameg - Jul 23, 2007 1:55:54 pm PDT #9602 of 10001

So I was reading a week-old CSMonitor, and came across this story mentioned: [link]

Sounds sorta familiar.


Scrappy - Jul 23, 2007 2:00:11 pm PDT #9603 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

and show yourself off, but it might also be irrelevant to your job duties.

But the stuff you want to show off is stuff that IS relevant to your job duties. Whether that's knowledge of Sanskrit or an ability to schedule or a great sense of humor, that's what you want to show.


Jesse - Jul 23, 2007 2:01:14 pm PDT #9604 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Moving to how things go once you have the job, I guess some things are universal, like everything going to shit right before your vacation. Over the weekend, I got a notice that my super is going to be gone for three weeks starting tomorrow, so I got home from work tonight to find water dripping out of my bathroom ceiling! I felt really bad calling, but he was his usual lovely self. Turns out, the guy upstairs is installing a new sink. By himself. In what I can only believe is a rental apartment. Seriously?? So the super went to help him finish and try to stop the water. @@


sarameg - Jul 23, 2007 2:06:13 pm PDT #9605 of 10001

It seems that everytime I take a vacation since...um...2005? Something cataclysmic happens AT WORK. Layoffs, new jobs, family emergencies that take key people out of town suddenly, system meltdown....this one, well, there's already two. But they were talking about replacing the server this week, but I haven't heard anything further. So it may get closer to when I'm gone.

Um.


Emily - Jul 23, 2007 2:11:01 pm PDT #9606 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I have these issues with wanting to please people in authority that always trips me up in interviews. This has absolutely nothing to do with how I teach, since I'm not concerned with pleasing my students in the same way.

That's not me disagreeing with anyone, I'm just bemoaning it.