You're nice, and you're funny and you don't smoke, and okay, werewolf, but that's not all the time. I mean, three days out of the month, I'm not much fun to be around, either.

Willow ,'Get It Done'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Pix - Jul 19, 2007 8:20:40 pm PDT #9014 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Has lyme always been lurking to catch us, or is it new? Maybe we were just naive.

Zenkitty, depends. I grew up in East Lyme, CT. Yep, right next to Lyme, CT, aka home of Lyme Disease. Although evidence of the disease exists in Europe in the 19th century,

The full syndrome now known as Lyme disease was not recognized until a cluster of cases originally thought to be juvenile rheumatoid arthritis was identified in three towns in southeastern Connecticut in 1975, including the towns Lyme and Old Lyme, which gave the disease its popular name.[13]This was investigated by Allen Steere, and others from Yale University. The recognition that the patients in the United States had EM led to the recognition that "Lyme arthritis" was one manifestation of the same tick-borne condition known in Europe. [14] (Wikipedia)
Yep, identified the year I was born. I've pretty much known Lyme as a danger for my entire life, and most people I know from this area, including both of my parents, have had it.

The good news is that it is easily treatable and curable if caught early and treated aggressively. The biggest problem is when early tests come back negative (as happened with my mom) and treatment is delayed. Luckily, around here the procedure is to test and then treat regardless. It's a lot trickier in other parts of the country, especially the further West you go, when people aren't as cautious about it.

Oh, and don't be too sure about the whole no way it's been on there for 12 hours thing--these deer ticks are literally smaller than the head of a pin. You might not have even noticed it.

But seriously msbelle, if it is Lyme, you're going to be fine. If you saw the ring, you've caught it fast enough. Just make sure that your doctor doesn't play the wait-and-see game if s/he isn't sure. I also strongly recommend this website as a reference if you have any questions. Chances are you won't need it, but it's a good place to start if you do.

I don't mean to jump in here and be all know-it-all bossy about this, but I've dealt with this disease for my whole life, and I've seen what it can do if it isn't treated. I just want to make sure you're okay.


ChiKat - Jul 19, 2007 8:29:59 pm PDT #9015 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

that's seriously groovy, paperdol.

Seconded. That's so very cool.


Pix - Jul 19, 2007 8:31:29 pm PDT #9016 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Meant to say but got lost in my OMGWTFLD rant: paperdol, that rocks!


Lee - Jul 19, 2007 8:35:12 pm PDT #9017 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

By the way, Lee, I wouldn't say no to a Monday 10 A.M. "ARE YOU AWAKE YET?" call. I've done these before, and it's probably okay, but it would be good to be awake. Although actually ATH!T will probably wake me up.

I will do my best to call you. E me the best number.


Emily - Jul 19, 2007 9:15:57 pm PDT #9018 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Cell number. The only number!


Lee - Jul 19, 2007 9:18:28 pm PDT #9019 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I can do that! I will email myself that I should.


Emily - Jul 19, 2007 10:17:48 pm PDT #9020 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Besides which, I'll be seeing you before then.


Lee - Jul 19, 2007 10:22:56 pm PDT #9021 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

This is true! Yay.

We need to work out details still though.


Hil R. - Jul 19, 2007 10:55:03 pm PDT #9022 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Odd. I'm doing some research, and looking at a bunch of draft cards from WWII. There are checkboxes to check off race. The options are White, Negro, Oriental, Indian, and Filipino. I'm really wondering how they decided on those as the options.

There are also check boxes for complexion: Sallow, Light, Ruddy, Dark, Freckled, Light Brown, Dark Brown, Black. "Dark" seems to have been used for relatively dark-skinned white people.


Anne W. - Jul 20, 2007 2:38:55 am PDT #9023 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

waves hello to Susan

Good to see your electrons around here again!