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Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


beth b - Jul 15, 2007 6:41:16 am PDT #8220 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

My neighbor had breast implants. No one really knows why she felt the need. ( esp since I know a number that would get a reduction if they could) . She was beautiful before, but she was in her late 20s eary 30s and was feeling the first signs of aging. The recovery time was much longer anyway expected. and there there was the time it tokk her to get used to the extra weight up front.

The kind of plastic surgery I'd consider - if I lost a bunch of weight and had loose skin to deal with


Emily - Jul 15, 2007 6:52:35 am PDT #8221 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

had his bald spot on his head removed

How do they remove that?


Laura - Jul 15, 2007 6:57:05 am PDT #8222 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Scalp is really loose. They just cut it out and stitched the sides together. It was thick leathery skin with no hair folicles. I was doing work for a plastic surgeon when Bobby was about a month old and he was with me since he was still nursing. The doc wanted to do the surgery then but I wasn't up to having my new precious bundle cut. Really should have done it then since I knew it would happen sometime. Took about 2 minutes.

eta: it was in the back of his head in the middle of the hair area.


Lee - Jul 15, 2007 6:57:33 am PDT #8223 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

If you have had plastic surgery, why and are you happy with it? If you haven't, would you consider it?

Depends how broadly you define plastic surgery. I've had some moles and beauty marks removed just because I didn't like them. Doing so led the dermatologist to find and remove a bump that was precancerous, but might not have been for long, so I am extra happy with that decision.

If I had anything "fixed" it would be my nose.


Laura - Jul 15, 2007 7:00:41 am PDT #8224 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I've had some moles and beauty marks removed just because I didn't like them.

I forgot about those. I get the little red type moles. When they pop up on my beltline or braline I get them burnt off because they get so irritated. Not vanity but comfort there. It's not near as invasive as surgery.


Sheryl - Jul 15, 2007 7:12:56 am PDT #8225 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Happy Birthday jengod!

I don't know if I know anyone who's had cosmetic surgery.(I don't know if my friend who had gastric bypass surgery and lost a lot of weight had the extra skin removed. I haven't seen her in a number of years.)


Scrappy - Jul 15, 2007 7:14:09 am PDT #8226 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

If I was going to have it, I would have the fat over my knees sucked out. I have puffy knees and I hate wearing anything that shows them.


Anne W. - Jul 15, 2007 7:53:32 am PDT #8227 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I had a skin tag on my left eyelid burned off for purely cosmetic reasons (in both senses of the word - it interfered with eyeliner application). It was one of those things where I was at the dermatologist anyhow to have a possible pre-cancerous mole removed. So...

Every now and then, I've thought about breast reduction surgery - nothing radical, but I would like the girls to match each other in size.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 15, 2007 7:55:35 am PDT #8228 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Fortunately, my biggest visual flaw (weak chin) is only really apparent in profile and not from the view of me I have in the mirror. Thus, no gut level angst about it. I can see opting for plastic surgery to correct something that bothered me about myself, but I don't care enough about other people's opinions of my appearance to go through the pain and expense.


Typo Boy - Jul 15, 2007 7:56:17 am PDT #8229 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Mathemetistas, I have a question.

I have a series of data between zero and -1 (not including zero) that I know is of limited accuracy. I don't want to graph the actual numbers because this I know the extreme inaccuracy makes them misleading. What seems reasonable is to classify results into terciles. However I have graph the data for decision making. Is it reasonable to translate all numbers into -0.1666 , -.6666, and -.9999 with error bars of -.16?

Basically I know that if I graph the real data and then list a wide confidences interval and low confidence level, this will be ignored and the resulting curve used for splitting babies without taking the tentative nature of the results into consideration. The data conversion I'm doing would just produce a step function (I'd put in large error bars), which I think more reflects actual choices. With error bars it would really look like a stair case. And I'd disclose what I was doing, including a table of original and converted data - which of course would also be ignored. But the question is whether this is valid?