My food is problematic.

River ,'The Message'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Typo Boy - Jul 15, 2007 7:56:17 am PDT #8229 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Mathemetistas, I have a question.

I have a series of data between zero and -1 (not including zero) that I know is of limited accuracy. I don't want to graph the actual numbers because this I know the extreme inaccuracy makes them misleading. What seems reasonable is to classify results into terciles. However I have graph the data for decision making. Is it reasonable to translate all numbers into -0.1666 , -.6666, and -.9999 with error bars of -.16?

Basically I know that if I graph the real data and then list a wide confidences interval and low confidence level, this will be ignored and the resulting curve used for splitting babies without taking the tentative nature of the results into consideration. The data conversion I'm doing would just produce a step function (I'd put in large error bars), which I think more reflects actual choices. With error bars it would really look like a stair case. And I'd disclose what I was doing, including a table of original and converted data - which of course would also be ignored. But the question is whether this is valid?


Nutty - Jul 15, 2007 8:03:21 am PDT #8230 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I knew a woman in college who had a bit of bone shaved off the bridge of her nose over a Christmas vacation. So, not the kind where they chop off your whole nose and reattach it, just incredibly sharp implements up your nostrils. She looked fine afterward, but, she's also looked fine beforehand.

(She reported that every woman in her family had it done, to decrease the Romanness of the nose; I think the subtext of it all was "I want to look less Indo-Hispanic" because the result was inevitably a less strikingly Inca-type profile.)

The kinds of physical "improvements" I might do are all technically impossible -- make my eyes less closely-spaced; make my waist longer -- so I'm secure in the knowledge that I will not change my personal aesthetic via knives. I mean, also, knives, on purpose, and not of necessity. But knowing that I'd have to rearrange my whole skull to make my eyes more widely spaced reassures me that I'll never even fantasize about doing it, you know?


sumi - Jul 15, 2007 9:12:15 am PDT #8231 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Happy Belated Birthday to 'Ouise and Zenkitty!


vw bug - Jul 15, 2007 9:14:40 am PDT #8232 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

has anyone here had plastic surgery (i.e. for cosmetic reasons, not for reconstruction after a car accident or something)?

I've had 13 plastic surgeries to repair my partial cleft lip. The last surgery was a nose job, and to this day I have NO idea why anyone does it for purely cosmetic reasons. It WAS NOT FUN.

And that's all I have to say on the matter.


Vortex - Jul 15, 2007 9:29:56 am PDT #8233 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

If I were to ever have plastic surgery, it would be lipo. I'm pretty happy with the way I look, just wish that there was less of me! plus, if I had lipo, I'd be sure to keep the boobs!


Hil R. - Jul 15, 2007 9:33:10 am PDT #8234 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The only plastic surgery I've ever considered has been breast reduction. But it can lead to loss of sensation, plus it can cut off the milk ducts, and I tend to scar really badly from even pretty minor cuts, so I've always decided against it.


Daisy Jane - Jul 15, 2007 11:41:45 am PDT #8235 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I got my book! (2 actually. Couldn't resist.)

Only on page 12 and sniffling and getting teary.

Thanks for being so brave, for writing the book, for everybody who helped, for just everything Allyson and buffistas.


Cashmere - Jul 15, 2007 12:32:53 pm PDT #8236 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I'd love to have breast reduction. My sister's ex-boyfriend had his eyes done and a chin implant. And I know someone who had reconstruction after a double mastectomy. But that's it.


bon bon - Jul 15, 2007 12:34:08 pm PDT #8237 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Bad news: Bob Bob was at a conference in Halifax this weekend, and his plane back to Ann Arbor was canceled because of weather, and they didn't book him on another flight until tomorrow afternoon.

Good news: He was in Newark at the time! Unexpected Bob!

Freaky sidenote: I had made a bet with someone that there's no way Bob would unexpectedly show up in NYC between June 20 and the end of July (his next scheduled visit). I ...lose?


flea - Jul 15, 2007 12:44:34 pm PDT #8238 of 10001
information libertarian

Here's another one: I learned that a couple I know are having fights about money. The problem is, he has a $500 a month "personal spending money" budget and regularly goes over. I don't know enough about their finances to know exactly what's in personal spending, but hers is $125 a month. They are a 2-income couple, both civic employees, with 2 kids.

That seems like a hell of a lot of "personal spending," right? I mean, that's an iPhone (admittedly a lame 4G one) a month!! I have no idea what he spends it on, but it's not anything like drugs or loose women, I'm pretty sure.