Illyria: Wesley's dead. I'm feeling grief for him. I can't seem to control it. I wish to do more violence. Spike: Well, wishes just happen to be horses today.

'Not Fade Away'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Jun 17, 2007 9:36:12 am PDT #3463 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

It's always amazed me since I learned of it that many Baptist churches celebrate the Eucharist with... grape juice?

There are times when I am very glad I attended a church towards the liberal-end of the Presbyterian spectrum in my youth, because we were actually expected to think.


Hil R. - Jun 17, 2007 9:40:06 am PDT #3464 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

It's always amazed me since I learned of it that many Baptist churches celebrate the Eucharist with... grape juice?

Mormons use water. They don't drink alcohol, and when the church started, unfermented grape juice wasn't available. Doctrines and Covenants says "it mattereth not what ye shall eat or what ye shall drink when ye partake of the sacrament, if it so be that ye do it with an eye single to my glory."


Zenkitty - Jun 17, 2007 9:42:01 am PDT #3465 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Can't be wine. Because alcohol is the Devil.


Narrator - Jun 17, 2007 10:04:56 am PDT #3466 of 10001
The evil is this way?

Very good for them. Does Simpson, I wonder, need to backpay what was already given to him?

He probably would, if he had received any of the money. As I recall, the publisher paid $800,000 to a Florida corporation which was owned by OJ's kids. I think that Goldman probably asserted that this was a sham by Simpson to avoid paying the judgment (which is a no-no). However, I'm not sure that this will be successful where children and not the debtor, own the corporation.


vw bug - Jun 17, 2007 10:15:15 am PDT #3467 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

because we were actually expected to think.

Some of us still learned how to think.


aurelia - Jun 17, 2007 10:20:16 am PDT #3468 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Happy birthday, Cass!

The Simpson thing confuses me. Mostly because I don't think I paid much attention to the results of the civil case. But frankly, no matter who the money goes to, I have no interest in reading that book.


aurelia - Jun 17, 2007 10:23:03 am PDT #3469 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

It's always amazed me since I learned of it that many Baptist churches celebrate the Eucharist with... grape juice?

There are times when I am very glad I attended a church towards the liberal-end of the Presbyterian spectrum in my youth, because we were actually expected to think.

I missed a leap in here somewhere. Where does the non-thinking come in?


aurelia - Jun 17, 2007 10:43:56 am PDT #3470 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

bear naked granola

Baby giant manta ray! [link] Some things don't need to be born cute.


Maria - Jun 17, 2007 10:45:19 am PDT #3471 of 10001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Post 'n' run:

Happy, happy birthday Cass! May you have pretty men and pretty cars on your TV all day.

Happy Father's Day to the Buff-dads, new and old!


Theodosia - Jun 17, 2007 10:45:32 am PDT #3472 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I missed a leap in here somewhere. Where does the non-thinking come in?

Instead of taking it all on faith, so to speak. Feeling free to speak up and ask if a particular practice makes any sense, like substituting grape juice for what clearly was intended to be wine. Thinking about whether transubstantiation is literal or symbolic (and being respectful of other's opinions about it).