That's been the standard time everywhere I've worked.

It's mean!

Okay, perhaps not the maturest viewpoint, but half a year before I can use sick time? If one accepts the need for sick time, that's a long while to go without.

As it is, I've taken one unpaid day so far, and may take unpaid vacation before all is said and done, in order to avoid too much stress.

I don't like it either, and think they should make that up to you once you've completed the 6 months. So sure your paychecks are cut before the 6 months, but then that all comes back on the 6 month paycheck.

But, then I know my views on labor are probably a little different than your average company's.

But no vacation or paid sick days until 6 months in, which is twice the waiting period at either of my last gigs.

Mine has always started accumulating right away. So effectively, you've racked up a day or so by the end of the first month.

"genebt" is nonsense

genesst?

Mine has always started accumulating right away.

I should check this, but the HR is a maze here, and I don't quite need to know yet.

I think I accrued, but wasn't supposed to use, leave for the first 90 days. My bosses let me anyway (90 included Xmas and TG.)

Okay, perhaps not the maturest viewpoint, but half a year before I can use sick time? If one accepts the need for sick time, that's a long while to go without.

Yeah that seems weird to me. I don't remember if we had a waiting period before being able to take paid time on my current job. I was there three months as a contractor before I came on as a permanent employee. I know I started accumulating time right away as a perm. employee.

I don't know if there's a waiting period at new job. When I accepted the offer I told them that I was going to take 3 days basically right away that I'd already planned and they were cool with that.

"genebt" is nonsense

genesst?

Hah, no, though that was a very good guess, Tom. It's gesiebt, meaning sieved.

Mulling it over, "doehles" makes me think of dough (usually "teig"), perhaps it means the same thing.

BTW, Hil, half a pound in Germany is 500g, so you'll probably have to convert that to US lbs for the recipes to work properly.

butterflocken - "butter flakes" - butter cut into little pieces

So perfect! My language-happy just met my cooking-happy!

Is the difference between using right away and waiting six months also a difference between hourly and salaried? I know that has been the difference everywhere I have worked. I think the theory is that as a salaried person, you are paid for what you produce and they won't have to pay someone to cover you if you are sick. If you are hourly and sick, you can call in and you just won't get paid. I think that higher ups also assume that hourly employees are much more likely to fake sick.