Early: So is it still her room when it's empty? Does the room, the thing, have purpose? Or do we -- what's the word? Simon: I really can't help you. Early: The plan is to take your sister. Get the reward, which is substantial. 'Imbue.' That's the word.

'Objects In Space'


Experimental TV: Comedy  

This thread is part of an experiment to determine Buffistas' interest in television discussion. It will close on June 1st, 2007, after which there will be a brief skirmish to sort out what we want to do next. This thread is for discussion of all comedy, regardless of airing station. [NAFDA]


Scrappy - Apr 19, 2007 8:26:10 pm PDT #52 of 447
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

The British version has more humiliation all round than the US version, but it's got great arcs for all the characters and works as self-contained story. I ADORE it.


erikaj - Apr 19, 2007 9:47:25 pm PDT #53 of 447
Always Anti-fascist!

So far I like both, although, of course the USA-ians are more recognizable right now. I think it's cute that Jim resembles Tim...well, they both have the scruffy sandy hair at least.


Jessica - Apr 20, 2007 3:05:55 am PDT #54 of 447
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

One thing that The Office does really well is to humanize all of its characters, so they all get to trade off being jerks and being decent people

Heh - the funny thing is, being a huge fan of the British version, this was exactly why I never got into watching the US one. That "everyone gets to be the good guy sometimes" vibe is so...American. It's a pet peeve of mine in Hollywood remakes of foreign films too.

(That said, I can see why for a long-running series, you'd want your characters a little softer and more likable, so I do cut the series a lot of slack. But even when I'm really enjoying an episode, I can't get the feeling out of my head that they're all being way too nice.)


Laura - Apr 20, 2007 3:56:08 am PDT #55 of 447
Our wings are not tired.

I went ahead and obtained the first 6 episodes of The Office to give it a look. Maybe this weekend. Is it teenage boy material, or should I just watch it by myself?

btw, Jessica, you have snail mail en route. thanks.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 20, 2007 3:57:13 am PDT #56 of 447
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Interesting article in Slate on why Thank God You're Here isn't really improv: [link]


Topic!Cindy - Apr 20, 2007 6:37:13 am PDT #57 of 447
What is even happening?

Laura, I haven't let my kids watch, but my oldest is 11. It probably wouldn't be a problem to let him watch, but that's the slippery slope to letting the 8 and 7 year old watch (besides, The Office is *my* time).

It's not particularly violent or sexy. I think I would watch it with teenaged kids. People are inappropriate (there's racial awkwardness and offense, and sexual awkwardness and offense [both chauvinism and homophobia]) but it's clearly presented as inappropriate behavior. It's not glorified. It comes out in characters' jackass moments.


Laura - Apr 20, 2007 7:05:48 am PDT #58 of 447
Our wings are not tired.

I may preview it first, but I thought that perhaps there was a bit of teenage (or 12 yo) humor in the mix. Being young boys they would no doubt repeat endlessly the most inappropriate things. Bobby is almost 13 and Brendon 15, so not so young.

They enjoy watching Scrubs, House, and Drive with me. Another show we can enjoy as a family would be nice.


bon bon - Apr 20, 2007 7:09:29 am PDT #59 of 447
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Interesting article in Slate on why Thank God You're Here isn't really improv:

Yeah, there's been a lot of grumbling in improv circles about how hard this show hits on everything you're NOT supposed to do in improv. It's definitely not about improvising scenes, just some weird humiliation humor thing.


Vortex - Apr 20, 2007 7:21:37 am PDT #60 of 447
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I agree. I mean, the show is funny at times, but the other actors definitely have a script/specific things to say, and it's not as much fun as it would be if they just let it unfold.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 20, 2007 7:39:03 am PDT #61 of 447
What is even happening?

I may preview it first, but I thought that perhaps there was a bit of teenage (or 12 yo) humor in the mix. Being young boys they would no doubt repeat endlessly the most inappropriate things. Bobby is almost 13 and Brendon 15, so not so young.

The character of Michael Scott, who is the office manager (played by Steve Carell) is, in fact, a forty-something year old who is 12 year old doofus. He's the worst offender, and you can tell he never got enough love and is always trying way too hard to be funny and loved.

They would probably repeat the most inappropriate things, because they're young boys. I think though, that they'd also understand they were inappropriate. It's very obvious. Michael is my least favorite character about 50% of the time.

I think Carell is ridiculously gifted, but I think the directors and editors are way too in love with him, and don't know where and when to cut his scenes. And sometimes the writers have him do things even the worst doofi wouldn't do, and it makes me roll my eyes, because in general, the show is way too smart for that. The other 50% of the time, he's simply brilliant and makes an episode. Just when you're ready to write him off as the most cringe-worthy human ever, he has a vulnerable moment that breaks your heart.