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Experimental TV: Comedy  

This thread is part of an experiment to determine Buffistas' interest in television discussion. It will close on June 1st, 2007, after which there will be a brief skirmish to sort out what we want to do next. This thread is for discussion of all comedy, regardless of airing station. [NAFDA]


Jesse - May 19, 2007 5:47:34 am PDT #436 of 447
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Hmm, that's also possible. So you think they were essentially over by the morning of the interviews? I just think they would have been a lot more uncomfortable around each other in those scenes if that were the case. I also think that Jim's interview was the catalyst for his deciding to go back to Scranton to be with Pam; if he'd already broken up with Karen by then, I think that scene and that decision would have played out differently.

Not that they had officially broken up, necessarily, but knowing that they didn't really have a future together has got to be the beginning of the end, IMO. Especially from Karen's side. Because, Jim...

Jim's not adventurous, he's not career-oriented, and he's not all that interested in advancing up the Dunder-Mifflin corporate ladder. What he wants is to be happy with Pam, and if that's gonna be in Scranton, then Scranton it is.

I'm assuming he's from there, and the one line about how he hadn't been to New York since his sixth-grade field trip was pretty telling to me.


Polter-Cow - May 19, 2007 6:10:58 am PDT #437 of 447
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So, does anyone have any opinions on why Karen didn't get the coorporate job? She seems very career driven, capable, intelligent, professional, etc.

But does she have an MBA? Also, she's a woman. Jan didn't end up working out too well in that position. At least they know Ryan won't sleep with Michael, as much as Michael wants to.


Topic!Cindy - May 19, 2007 6:16:39 am PDT #438 of 447
What is even happening?

I doubt Jim has him MBA, and I really felt like he had the job and just didn't want it. It could be sexism. That's what Scott thinks. I just think Karen must look as good on paper as Jim, and she presents herself well. I'm wondering if she just made a classic blunder in believing anything is ever actually off the record. She didn't show loyalty or respect for her immediate superior. I assume that David Wallace will be the immediate superior of the person who gets Jan's position.


-t - May 19, 2007 6:27:54 am PDT #439 of 447
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm guessing that after Jim's interview Karen came back from lunch, he told her that he thought she'd get the job and that he wouldn't move to NY to be with her and that she accepted that, also thinking she'd get the job. So Ryan getting it is going to make their break up retroactively harder.


Topic!Cindy - May 19, 2007 6:38:22 am PDT #440 of 447
What is even happening?

I think he came back from lunch and told Karen he didn't want the job and wanted to go back to Scranton. Since they'd already had the, "We'll never make it in Scranton," conversation, there wasn't too much else to say.

So Ryan getting it is going to make their break up retroactively harder.
Yes, and much more interesting.


Fred Pete - May 20, 2007 5:05:10 pm PDT #441 of 447
Ann, that's a ferret.

At least they know Ryan won't sleep with Michael, as much as Michael wants to.

I kept hoping for Ryan and Jim, but that's just me.


Topic!Cindy - May 21, 2007 5:54:13 am PDT #442 of 447
What is even happening?

Ryan's not nice enough for Jim.


-t - May 21, 2007 8:12:27 am PDT #443 of 447
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Jim: I liked you better as a temp

Ryan: Me, too.


erikaj - May 25, 2007 12:36:14 pm PDT #444 of 447
Always Anti-fascist!

I liked that Jim stuck around for Michael's "party". Once again, Michael's awkward side made me care about him. Also, I saw the Scrubs musical. Very cute.


Jessica - May 27, 2007 6:48:27 am PDT #445 of 447
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Continued from the Drama thread - last night was Fox Pilot Night at our house. The only comedy I watched was The Return of Jezebel James, which is Amy Sherman Palladino's new show with Parker Posey.

I wish it were better. Maybe it will get better, I don't know. As it currently stands, it's very awkward and not very funny. Parker Posey is playing a broader version of Lorelai and it just doesn't quite work in a sitcom context. Losing the laugh track would be a huge step in the right direction, but honestly I'm just not sure Palladino can write broad sitcom-style comedy. I don't think a half-hour format is right for this show.