poor Toby
For so many reasons. I keep wondering what he did to deserve being assigned to work for Michael.
Very convincing. Makes me completely want to put myself under government control. Please take me to where you can make me unconscious and naked.
Riley ,'Help'
Experimental TV: Comedy
This thread is part of an experiment to determine Buffistas' interest in television discussion. It will close on June 1st, 2007, after which there will be a brief skirmish to sort out what we want to do next. This thread is for discussion of all comedy, regardless of airing station. [NAFDA]
Fred Pete - May 11, 2007 5:12:22 am PDT #303 of 447
Ann, that's a ferret.
Topic!Cindy - May 11, 2007 5:15:58 am PDT #304 of 447
What is even happening?
I read it as him forcing himself not to react to her. not only because the cameras were there, but also because Karen was sitting beside him and so was every single person(sans Toby, poor Toby) from the office. plus, i think he was just in shock because he never thought she had those feelings for him. it's why he didn't make a move when he found out she'd broken off the wedding and was back in the dating scene. he figured if she was interested in him, she would've called him or shown up in Stanford.I think you're right. I didn't know how to put any of that into actual, informative words. But his eyes were so wide, it was clear he was obviously affected, even though he was trying not to react. It was great. But mostly, I care about Pam in this. I love her and Jim, and I'd love to see their romance and friendship continue, but I'm so frigging proud of her, that it seems a little less important now.
She's now where Jim was in Casino Night. She's just had an, "I've gotta be me," moment. It was so awesome.
I didn't think Karen looked bitchy so much as...I don't even know how to put it. I should probably watch again before I try, because my brain is so focused on Pam, right now.
I love Pam Beesly as much as I love Buffy Summers. There. I've said it. And I'd say it again.
lisah - May 11, 2007 5:34:38 am PDT #305 of 447
Punishingly Intricate
I didn't think Karen looked bitchy so much as...I don't even know how to put it. I should probably watch again before I try, because my brain is so focused on Pam, right now.
As much as I was rooting for Pam (and I always will) I was just dying for Karen during Pam's speech.
I wasn't sure if I understood the Jim & Karen talking to the CEO (?) about the NY position. Are we to understand that they called him? To undermine Michael? Or ...?
Theodosia - May 11, 2007 5:44:38 am PDT #306 of 447
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
My belief is that upon finding out there was a position open in the NY office, they both agreed to try for it ASAP. Because, damn, they both should be more attractive to upper mgt than Michael, who just broke up with Jan, after all, and is well-known for his fuckups.
Fred Pete - May 11, 2007 5:47:19 am PDT #307 of 447
Ann, that's a ferret.
I love Pam Beesly as much as I love Buffy Summers.
Pam may be the show's answer to Tara. Two insecure persons growing more confident in themselves and their abilities. And I find it very easy to have a lot of sympathy for Karen, who after all hasn't done anything wrong.
And I (ETA: also) got the impression that Jim and Karen were both trying to get the corporate position for themselves. So, undermining Michael in the sense of competing with him but not in the sense of trying to bring him down.
Polter-Cow - May 11, 2007 6:20:44 am PDT #308 of 447
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I love Pam Beesly as much as I love Buffy Summers. There. I've said it. And I'd say it again.
Say it as many times as you want. The same comparison came to my mind.
tiggy - May 11, 2007 6:24:41 am PDT #309 of 447
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
I didn't think Karen looked bitchy so much as...I don't even know how to put it.
she definitely looked bitchy to me, but i certainly didn't blame her. Jim's a great guy and she already knows he still has feelings for Pam. so having Pam come out and say she has feelings for Jim and then say that she knows he's in a relationship and follow that comment with a "whatever" and i would be pretty pissy too. in fact, if i were Karen i probably would have had to say something. so i have to give credit to Karen for just sitting there and letting Pam have this moment.
Are we to understand that they called him? To undermine Michael? Or ...?
I started thinking about that this morning. i'm guessing they called him, but i don't think it was undermining so much as knowing they were probably more suited to the corporate position than Michael. honestly, i can't even believe the higher ups would even consider Michael for a corporate position.
lisah - May 11, 2007 6:28:18 am PDT #310 of 447
Punishingly Intricate
i can't even believe the higher ups would even consider Michael for a corporate position.
Yeah I'm wondering about what's going on there. Is it just a plot device or something else? Maybe they think he'll do less damage in upper management!
I kind of would have liked a talking head of Karen or Jim at the end. for the awkward. but I guess next week will be the fall out.
Fred Pete - May 11, 2007 6:37:38 am PDT #311 of 447
Ann, that's a ferret.
Maybe they think he'll do less damage in upper management!
A few bad managers around here have been transferred/promoted into positions where they have nice titles but don't supervise anybody. They might be thinking along those lines, getting Michael into a position that plays into his strengths. If he has any.
DavidS - May 11, 2007 6:45:02 am PDT #312 of 447
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
A few bad managers around here have been transferred/promoted into positions where they have nice titles but don't supervise anybody.
Don't they just fire people for incompetence?