I just think you're freakin' out 'cause you have to fight someone prettier than you.

Dawn ,'The Killer In Me'


Experimental TV: Network Drama  

This thread is an experiment to discern the Buffistas' interests in television discussion. It will close on June 1st, 2007, after which our community will assess our future direction. Discuss network aired drama here. [NAFDA]


sumi - May 19, 2007 7:46:34 pm PDT #674 of 820
Art Crawl!!!

Oh wow. Did you ever.

Now, I can't be sure what was in the last 15 minutes alone but:

Christina realizes that she washed the vows off her hands and has a meltdown. She takes so long to get her shit back together that Burke decides the wedding isn't something she really wants so he walks back to tell her that it's not going to happen (can't recall exact words) and leaves. Mere gets to announce that there will be no wedding and as she steps down after the announcement, she says, "It's over," - to Derek. Back at Christina and Burke's place - Christina shows the evidence that Burke is really truly gone: his vinyl collection is gone, so his his trumpet and his lucky skullcap - wherein she has this excellent meltdown and Mere comforts her. I believe there will be fan fiction.

Meanwhile, sometime during this episode, Karev sits down next to Addison who tells him that he's foolish to let Ava/Rebecca go so he races back to the hospital but she's gone.

The Chief offered the Chief-Surgeon position to Derek and in flashback they show Derek turning it down and saying that he (Weber) is clearly the best man for the job. Also Adele tells the Chief that he's the father of the baby she miscarried and in such a way that he knows that she still loves him.

George is cleaning out his locker when the new first-years come in. At the very end one of them introduces herself: it's Mere's half-sister Lexie Gray. Also, the woman that was flirting with Derek at Joe's the other night.


esse - May 20, 2007 7:59:06 am PDT #675 of 820
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Man, so much tv finaleness this week.

House: You know, what I walked away from this episode with was a surprising love for Chase. I like the though that he's in there for the long haul, and the ass-kissery aside, House has sort of grudgingly accepted him (probably because of the whole episode out in the woods with the assassins, or whatever, I can't remember the details of the plot exactly) as someone he's willing to leave some of the game-playing he does aside. Chase, more than anyone except possibly Wilson, has figured out how to cut to the core of House's bullshit and find the bits of truth and humanity underneath. I like that. I think it's a good, if unexpected, role for Chase to play.

Gilmore Girls: My god, I cried like a baby through this entire this, even as I was laughing. Every moment was perfect, even in its imperfections. My favorite scene, aside from the love shining through on Lorelai's face when Luke said, simply, "I just wanted you to be happy," full in the knowledge that they were both losing Rory in a fundamental way, and that some part of Lorelai would be lost; my favorite scene still was the entire town hiding in Miss Patty's studio while Rory and Lorelai, oblivious, walked away. That encapsulated their wonderful, strange little town so well.

Bones: While it felt like the the murder was just a sidenote to the larger emotional storylines of the season, those pictures on the wall were beautiful despite the tragedy. I really liked the way Max getting arrested played out, and his reasons for it, though I don't understand why on earth Booth and Max had to punch at each other, unless it was to give me the lovely sight of Dave in motion. But I can fully believe that, having made sure Brennan's brother was safe and hidden, he turned his mind to his daughter and the ways he had left her, and made sure he wouldn't do it again. (Except I fully believe he could get out of jail anytime he so wished, or if it was needful.) I think Tempe is going to realize the full scope of what it means to have her father around next season, and I look forward to it.

Though I thought the thing about Angela being married previously was going to crop up again, I liked that it didn't really present a huge problem, especially in the light of Jack's declaration of unconditional love the week previous. You could see, in his eyes, that it didn't matter whether they were married or not, as long as they were together, and that was beautiful.

Also, I always forget how freaking *hot* Hodgins is, and this time I was reminded as he was walking away from Angela's bad-ass father. Rowr, dude.

The Booth/Brennan stuff was a much more subdued thread in the story than I thought it was going to be, but I'm fine with that. Booth, looking for Brennan's reassurance and haunted by the worry of what he was doing to her; and her understanding of the duty that defines him, combined with her forgiveness; and his final understanding of what, exactly, Max was doing, and the explanation to Tempe--that was a lovely aspect to their relationship. The last scene was chump, though.

Criminal Minds: HMOG I had to walk away three or four times from watching that because it was not just chilling, it was scary as hell and horrifying to boot. I wasn't sure I could be more freaked out by this serial killer show, but apparently going after the people Jason had saved did the trick. Man. I liked the set-up for next year if only because it means that there are actually consequences for the many rash actions of the BAU team and not just simple resolution; but I think making Prentice the person to follow Hotchner is cheap and stupid on the part of the superior. There is very minimal chance that the team will actually follow her at the expense of Hotch, particularly after he pulled them through the many personally difficult things they experienced this season. And it's ridiculous to make those kind of claims in the face of the BAU solve rate. But I look forward to next season nonetheless. Also, when Hotch was in the office, it was (continued...)


esse - May 20, 2007 7:59:13 am PDT #676 of 820
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( continues...) really striking how much his demeanor has changed for this character from his time in comedy. That's some pretty impressive acting chops.


esse - May 20, 2007 8:04:14 am PDT #677 of 820
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Grey's: I am ambivalent about the last few episodes from the ferry crash onwards, really. And the finale didn't do anything to assuage that. I'll stick around next season, but I am beginning to wonder if this show is going to please me ever again. Still, the Karev/Ava thing was nice, as was the final scene with George and Lexi. Though there is no excuse for missing your friend's wedding, dudes. No excuse.

I have more thoughts, but I am going to spend my summer blissfully Grey's free, so I am going to table this for next season. I have better hopes for Private Practice, I think. Though I really hope they get a better title.

Numb3rs: This shown owns me in ways I totally didn't expect. I wandered around for an hour flailing about Colby, 'cause even out of left field, I buy it. I can't believe that I do, but I do. Season four can't come fast enough.


sumi - May 20, 2007 11:21:01 am PDT #678 of 820
Art Crawl!!!

My So-Called Life dvds to be re-released!


Vortex - May 20, 2007 11:28:56 am PDT #679 of 820
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Damn, Lady Heather rocks. I love her dynamic with Grissom, and I really wish they'd gone down that road. But I loved Catherine talking to Sara about Grissom's past loves being beautiful, intense, and seriously difficult. With the implication that maybe Grissom's attraction to Sara is more about her being the most messed up of all than anything else. Of course, I could be reading a lot into that.

yep. And one of the reasons that he and Lady Heather didn't work is that she's not as damaged as he thinks she is. Frankly, she;s no more damaged than anyone else.

Numb3rs: I can't believe that Colby is a traitor!

MY BABY!!!! FLAIL! FLAIL! FLAIL! I almost cried!! I looooove him. I can't believe this!

Given the previous episode this season with his old buddy, I thought it was going to turn out to be someone else because Colby being a spy was too obvious.

yeah, but who else could it be? David? Probably some contractual thing, the actor wanted to leave.

, though I don't understand why on earth Booth and Max had to punch at each other, unless it was to give me the lovely sight of Dave in motion. But I can fully believe that, having made sure Brennan's brother was safe and hidden, he turned his mind to his daughter and the ways he had left her, and made sure he wouldn't do it again. (Except I fully believe he could get out of jail anytime he so wished, or if it was needful.)

It was cute. I guess so that Max could say he didn't go quietly.

I liked the set-up for next year if only because it means that there are actually consequences for the many rash actions of the BAU team and not just simple resolution; but I think making Prentice the person to follow Hotchner is cheap and stupid on the part of the superior. There is very minimal chance that the team will actually follow her at the expense of Hotch, particularly after he pulled them through the many personally difficult things they experienced this season. And it's ridiculous to make those kind of claims in the face of the BAU solve rate. But I look forward to next season nonetheless.

I dont' think that the superior was offering the leadership of the BAU, just her continued membership in it. But, Prentiss is an idiot if she thinks that she can get away with it. We just saw how good Hotch is. Does she think that she can tank his career and no one will notice any change in her actions or demeanor?


Sean K - May 20, 2007 11:32:51 am PDT #680 of 820
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And one of the reasons that he and Lady Heather didn't work is that she's not as damaged as he thinks she is. Frankly, she;s no more damaged than anyone else.

Frankly, I think there's a good case to be made for Lady Heather being less damaged than most.

Okay, not counting the incident with her daughter, where she tried to whip the bad guy to death until Grissom came along and stopped her, but she was under extreme emotional duress at the time.


Zenkitty - May 20, 2007 11:33:30 am PDT #681 of 820
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Prentiss ought to go straight to Hotch and tell him everything, and the two of them work out a strategy to hold onto their jobs and sink that Evil Lady whose name I don't know.


Zenkitty - May 20, 2007 11:41:42 am PDT #682 of 820
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I gave up on Gray's after George and Izzy "fell in love". Just... too much. I had all the episodes on my DVR and couldn't be arsed to watch them. For me the series ended after Mere died and then didn't. Though I'm pleased Christina didn't marry Burke.

I find I'm enjoying the show now just as much through Buffistas' reactions and recaps as I did actually putting in the 42 minutes to watch the episodes.


brenda m - May 20, 2007 12:50:41 pm PDT #683 of 820
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

And one of the reasons that he and Lady Heather didn't work is that she's not as damaged as he thinks she is.

She wasn't, anyway, and she seemed to be more able to get inside him and give him some insight into some of his damage than anyone else.

But I'm not sure that's the case any more.