Wash: I mean, I'm the one she swore to love, honor and obey. Mal: Listen... She swore to obey? Wash: Well, no, not...

'War Stories'


Experimental TV: Network Drama  

This thread is an experiment to discern the Buffistas' interests in television discussion. It will close on June 1st, 2007, after which our community will assess our future direction. Discuss network aired drama here. [NAFDA]


askye - May 01, 2007 10:46:46 am PDT #271 of 820
Thrive to spite them

Johnny Gault is Tim Daly's character. He's sort of always refered to as Johnny Gault, rather than just Johnny.

His big secret pain is revealed after their first illicit kiss. They are herding her sheep for some reason and it's at night, Johnny emerges from the woods with an armful of firewood and in confession mode.

He tells Rebecca that he grew up in a Texas orphanage and every spring they'd get new clothes and a bath and the orphange would make them think they were being adopted, but really it was just farmer's looking for kids to work. Then one year, he was picked by a pig farmer, Mr. Cowper, who was harsh and beat him over everything (this explains the scarred back that Rebecca had seen earlier when she was saving Johnny Gault). Finally he got tired of it and went to run away but the pig famer set the dogs on him and drug him back and chained him up right under the place where the pigs are hung to die Then the pig farmer puts a pig up on the hook and sticks it and lets it bleed out, and I think on Johnny, as Mr. Cowper reads from the Bible until the pig dies. For two years Johnny was chained up until he could loosen a link in the chain and get free.

Then he went up to Mr. Cowper's bedroom and said "Pardon me, Mr. Cowper" and when he woke up Johnny stabbed him with a pitchfork, ran away, and kept on killing. "I'm good at it."


Dana - May 01, 2007 10:49:01 am PDT #272 of 820
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

as Mr. Cowper reads from the Bible until the pig dies.

That was my favorite part of his secret hidden angsty past.


brenda m - May 01, 2007 10:50:03 am PDT #273 of 820
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Please tell me they're rerunning this movie.


askye - May 01, 2007 10:56:51 am PDT #274 of 820
Thrive to spite them

I checked the Hallmark Channel schedule and it doesn't look like The Outsider is on the schedule for May.

Dana - that was my favorite part as well.


Hayden - May 01, 2007 11:00:40 am PDT #275 of 820
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I think Toddson was making a joke about a bad Ayn Rand novel.

Not that there's any other kind of Ayn Rand novel.


askye - May 01, 2007 11:07:06 am PDT #276 of 820
Thrive to spite them

I don't think I've ever read Ayn Rand so it went over my head.


Toddson - May 01, 2007 11:45:28 am PDT #277 of 820
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Thank you, Corwood! Yes, I was trying to refer to "Atlas Shrugged". The really long bad Ayn Rand novel (as opposed to the shorter bad Ayn Rand novels).


DebetEsse - May 01, 2007 12:10:52 pm PDT #278 of 820
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Snerk. One of the Aspen mayoral candidates had that with him at a recent debate. The NPR lady asked him about it, and he talked about the super-long speech at the end and the length of the book, and how it's about excellence, and I was sitting there thinking, "How can this guy not be aware of the cultural baggage that comes with that writer?"


erikaj - May 01, 2007 12:16:46 pm PDT #279 of 820
Always Anti-fascist!

Wood Harris is awesome. Though my favorite dealer is still String. Am still blown away that he's UK-ian. Idris is even better at being US than Hugh Laurie(Who, his own angst aside, is pretty damn awesome at it.)


libkitty - May 01, 2007 12:27:33 pm PDT #280 of 820
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I just ordered The Outsiders on Netflix. I may not have big cable or TiVo, but I lurve me some Netflix!