I like pancakes 'cause they're stackable. Ooo, and waffles 'cause you can put things in the little holes if you wanted to.

Buffy ,'Potential'


Experimental TV: Network Drama  

This thread is an experiment to discern the Buffistas' interests in television discussion. It will close on June 1st, 2007, after which our community will assess our future direction. Discuss network aired drama here. [NAFDA]


Dana - May 01, 2007 5:48:29 am PDT #264 of 820
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I just saw Tim Daly on some Hallmark movie, The Outsider, with Naomi Watts , a Westerny thing where he played a killer who's found by Watts character, who is a Plain woman, a widow, and he has a tortured past but as he heals they fall in love and she leaves her religion and family to marry him.

I love that movie, in a sort of Lord King Bad Movie way. I've practically transcribed the thing to shrift in chat.


sumi - May 01, 2007 5:59:23 am PDT #265 of 820
Art Crawl!!!

I saw the very end of that movie. Sadly, I believe I missed all of the shirtlessness.


askye - May 01, 2007 6:07:57 am PDT #266 of 820
Thrive to spite them

I missed the reason the Plain elders met in the rain at Rebecca's house and she was being forced to admit her sins --did she and Johnny get caught kissing?

And I wanted more about them day to day after they got married, I think there was too much build up about the sheep and the cattle and all of that. Like I wanted a scene where she goes to put her hair up like normal and then decides to wear it down all the time.

I think Johnny Gault wins for the most horrible secret man pain. Tim Daly did a decent job with describing that because I almost went to a "oh! woobie" place rather than just rolling my eyes at the over the topness.


Dana - May 01, 2007 6:09:11 am PDT #267 of 820
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I missed the reason the Plain elders met in the rain at Rebecca's house and she was being forced to admit her sins --did she and Johnny get caught kissing?

I believe they were actually caught in flagrante. The not!Amish were not pleased.


askye - May 01, 2007 6:12:14 am PDT #268 of 820
Thrive to spite them

Oh! And I missed Sexy Tim Daly action! Hallmark needs to air that again so I can record it and watch the shirtless parts again.


Toddson - May 01, 2007 10:37:43 am PDT #269 of 820
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

is this where I ask "who is Johnny Gault?"


sumi - May 01, 2007 10:40:52 am PDT #270 of 820
Art Crawl!!!

Ooh, The Outsider is on Netflix.


askye - May 01, 2007 10:46:46 am PDT #271 of 820
Thrive to spite them

Johnny Gault is Tim Daly's character. He's sort of always refered to as Johnny Gault, rather than just Johnny.

His big secret pain is revealed after their first illicit kiss. They are herding her sheep for some reason and it's at night, Johnny emerges from the woods with an armful of firewood and in confession mode.

He tells Rebecca that he grew up in a Texas orphanage and every spring they'd get new clothes and a bath and the orphange would make them think they were being adopted, but really it was just farmer's looking for kids to work. Then one year, he was picked by a pig farmer, Mr. Cowper, who was harsh and beat him over everything (this explains the scarred back that Rebecca had seen earlier when she was saving Johnny Gault). Finally he got tired of it and went to run away but the pig famer set the dogs on him and drug him back and chained him up right under the place where the pigs are hung to die Then the pig farmer puts a pig up on the hook and sticks it and lets it bleed out, and I think on Johnny, as Mr. Cowper reads from the Bible until the pig dies. For two years Johnny was chained up until he could loosen a link in the chain and get free.

Then he went up to Mr. Cowper's bedroom and said "Pardon me, Mr. Cowper" and when he woke up Johnny stabbed him with a pitchfork, ran away, and kept on killing. "I'm good at it."


Dana - May 01, 2007 10:49:01 am PDT #272 of 820
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

as Mr. Cowper reads from the Bible until the pig dies.

That was my favorite part of his secret hidden angsty past.


brenda m - May 01, 2007 10:50:03 am PDT #273 of 820
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Please tell me they're rerunning this movie.