I hope you don't think that I just come over for the spells and everything. I mean, I really like just talking and hanging out with you and stuff.

Willow ,'First Date'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

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Typo Boy - Jan 28, 2008 5:56:09 am PST #9751 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Fay, you are right. I was confusing two characters.

I think it is the intent of the writers is that Jack is a really bad manager, at least in a conventional sense. He was a rogue - well, no need to mention to be on the safe side, but a guy who didn't take orders all that well, ultra-competent, but also ultra-independent, and never big with following rules. And even though he knows better, I think a big part of him expects that from anyone who works for him. "Rules are rules" is expressing an aspiration, something he know he should live up to as the man in charge. It is not something he is personally capable of living by. This applies to many of his other principles too; a lot of them are not his principles, but principles he thinks he should have.


beekaytee - Jan 28, 2008 6:03:01 am PST #9752 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

I think it is the intent of the writers is that Jack is a really bad manager

Interesting. Well meaning but flawed nobility. I can see that.


Emily - Jan 28, 2008 6:10:37 am PST #9753 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I thought it was Graham. Really, I have no idea what it was, but I thought I'd throw in that possibility.


Vortex - Jan 28, 2008 6:11:40 am PST #9754 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Also, could have been "Greg" with an accent.


hippocampus - Jan 28, 2008 6:14:19 am PST #9755 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

looked like a smaller hand holding a larger one in the flashback - which I'm not sure I want...

I kind of like the flawed leader thing - but it could get old. Gwen's meaningful looks are not growing on me. Well, sorta off and on.

Ianto was very funny. also, the fight scene? loved the way they handled that. could have done without the commercial commentary, though.


Vortex - Jan 28, 2008 6:20:18 am PST #9756 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Oh, I had a thought. How did the blowfish know who they were and what their issues were/are? I'm assuming that the blowfish arrived first and found the first bit of the puzzle, but was he working with John, or was John following him for the diamond?


sumi - Jan 28, 2008 6:21:57 am PST #9757 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I thought he was working with John. . . but also - Torchwood seems to have a higher profile - - otherwise how would that little old lady know who they were? So, if he'd been there longer - he would have heard of them.


Dana - Jan 28, 2008 6:23:45 am PST #9758 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

How did the blowfish know who they were and what their issues were/are?

The Exposition Fairy tapped him on the shoulder with her Infodump wand.


§ ita § - Jan 28, 2008 6:24:14 am PST #9759 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My read was that things had gone to hell in a handbasket while Jack was away and that the old lady and the fugu guy's knowledge was symptomatic of that.

I also wondered if this Grah (I heard it as Graham, cut off) had anything to do with the best friend Jack watched killed when he was little. I mean, we know how little dead counts for.


Jars - Jan 28, 2008 6:28:19 am PST #9760 of 10001

I assumed that the blowfish was telepathic. Bu I think my mind tends to be forty per cent handwavium when watching tv lately...