Dana and I have been slain by sweaty, blues-singing Gareth David-Lloyd. It would be amusing, but for the fact that we are dead and stuff.
Buffy: So how'd she get away with the bad mojo stuff? Anya: Giles sold it to her. Giles: Well, I didn't know it was her. I mean, how could I? If it's any consolation, I may have overcharged her.
'Sleeper'
Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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shrift - Jan 20, 2008 1:48:06 pm PST #9508 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
Liese S. - Jan 20, 2008 1:59:31 pm PST #9509 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Sweaty, blues-singing Gareth David-Lloyd is just stunning. And adorable. And hot. And stunning.
And boy doesn't give a half-bad performance. He's better than JM by far. His singing voice is so not what I expected from him.
§ ita § - Jan 20, 2008 2:06:13 pm PST #9510 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I just watched Captain Jack Harkness, and I realise I really should have rewatched the past season before embarking on the next one. Something our Jack said in it though--he mentions being a prisoner of war. I wonder if the "Graham" mentioned in the first episode of the new season is the weaker best friend he watched die.
Oh, and I totally don't get his timeline. He'd already been to Earth and stolen Jack's identity by the time he meets the Doctor and becomes immortal. At which point he goes back to Earth (in the oughts?)--but when did he leave Earth the first time round?
What am I not getting?
Jon B. - Jan 20, 2008 2:33:13 pm PST #9511 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
At which point he goes back to Earth (in the oughts?)
I thought that after he became immortal, he landed back in time to... errr... somewhere in the first half of the 20th century (maybe to when the Doctor picked him up -- WWII?), and he's been waiting to run into the doctor again ever since. I also thought that he was originally from the far future.
tiggy - Jan 20, 2008 2:37:10 pm PST #9512 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
Jon's thoughts are my thoughts. i also think that thinking too much about time travel will make your head hurt and you probably don't need that, ita.
Dana - Jan 20, 2008 2:40:41 pm PST #9513 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
The timeline's established in "Utopia", Doctor Who season 3. After Rose makes him immortal, he's stranded on the space station in the year 200,000-something, and he uses his "vortex manipulator" (the thing on his wrist) to jump back to Earth. But it's imprecise, so he ended up in 1800-something. He's lived on Earth since then.
§ ita § - Jan 20, 2008 3:11:19 pm PST #9514 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
But isn't he already Captain Jack when he meets the Doctor?
Dana - Jan 20, 2008 3:13:20 pm PST #9515 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Yes. So that's during WWII, when he's there as a con man, having taken the name of Captain Jack Harkness.
§ ita § - Jan 20, 2008 3:16:04 pm PST #9516 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Okay. Talk to me slowly. Captain Jack is born somewhere with a real name on a different planet. Does he go to Earth in WWII before he meets the Doctor? If so, is he there twice, since he strands himself in the 1800s trying to get to him again?
Dana - Jan 20, 2008 3:18:59 pm PST #9517 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Does he go to Earth in WWII before he meets the Doctor?
Yes.
If so, is he there twice, since he strands himself in the 1800s trying to get to him again?
Presumably, though we haven't heard it addressed on screen at all. I figure that the second time through, he's savvy enough to avoid the first iteration of himself. He avoids meeting Rose during the 1990s.