These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Laura - Dec 26, 2007 9:06:20 am PST #9118 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Also? Wow. Totally cracktastic.

Clearly braindead here because I forgot to obtain this. Correcting this error right now. I need a Who fix.


JenP - Dec 26, 2007 10:00:08 am PST #9119 of 10001

Oh, I need to remember to get that tonight. All about the crack.


tiggy - Dec 26, 2007 11:43:53 am PST #9120 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I must be dead inside because i wasn't all that thrilled with any of it.


Fay - Dec 26, 2007 12:06:39 pm PST #9121 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Oh, no, tiggy, not at all - I should perhaps have contextualised my "I cried" comment. I can be reduced to tears by my school's weekly assembly and by adverts, never mind storytelling. And even whilst I knew that RTD was doing that classic Stephen King make-them-like-the-character-then-kill-them thing, I still liked the fat couple, and was very sad when Mr Fat Bloke died. He was so endearing about the whole phone bill thing. And, you know, I can't overstate the whole business of my people being in genre telly. Because I am a geek, and 99.9% of all Scifi TV/Cinema is full of Americans, so people who sound normal are just such a delightful aberration that they get a lot of extra brownie points from the get-go.

It's not great telly, by any manner of means. It's cracktastic, and very flawed - but also, you know, Doctor Who is what we all grew up with. And - my people!


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 26, 2007 12:49:59 pm PST #9122 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'd argue that it occasionally rises to the level of great television, as in the case of "Blink" and some of the 9th Doctor episodes.


WindSparrow - Dec 26, 2007 12:58:11 pm PST #9123 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

tiggy, I definitely had mixed emotions about it. There were too many times when I could see the strings that RTD was using to tug on the hearts of viewers, which is a huge no-no for me. That was what made me walk out in the middle of Fellowship of the Ring. But there were moments when the rollicking good adventure of it carried me through.

I am still highly amused by the Dawn's in trouble, it must be Tuesday "It's Christmas, Aliens must be invading" attitude. I also wonder if Queen Victoria's banishment of the Doctor has been rescinded by Queen Elizabeth, or if those things have a time limit. Then again there is the thought that no one would bother to enforce such a thing a century or more after the original banishing.


WindSparrow - Dec 26, 2007 1:00:42 pm PST #9124 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I'd argue that it occasionally rises to the level of great television, as in the case of "Blink" and some of the 9th Doctor episodes.

I agree with Matt on this. It has its moments. Like Star Trek, it has been and can be horribly cheesy and/or preachy; it can also reach the sublime.


Laura - Dec 26, 2007 2:26:02 pm PST #9125 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Doctor Who: What's not to love! Creepy angels ! Titanic and Poseidon Adventure and heroic sacrifice! Batting halos! Heart achy Doctor ascending with the angels! Queen in hair curlers! Only Britain is Great! Um, yeah I thought it was all good Doctor Who fun.


Tom Scola - Dec 26, 2007 4:44:23 pm PST #9126 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Doctor Who:

I enjoyed it, but they really need to dial back the cheese a notch or two. Also, does RTD have some sort of maid fetish?


Vortex - Dec 26, 2007 5:25:08 pm PST #9127 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I want to highlight the whitefont above. Very intriguing. But, I will refrain!