My Davidson crush was pretty much killed by "At Home with the Braithwaites" .
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll continue to not be at all aware of its existence avoid it. Dare I ask what about it killed the crush?
I'm sorry, dad. You know I would never have tried to save River's life if I had known there was a dinner party at risk.
Simon ,'Safe'
Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.
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WindSparrow - Nov 17, 2007 4:27:22 pm PST #8452 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
Frankenbuddha - Nov 17, 2007 4:36:45 pm PST #8453 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
...and TORCHWOOD continues to make me feel for Owen. I'm not sure whether to say "Bad TORCHWOOD, no biscuit" or "Wow!".
Also, along with Cruise and Harmon, I'm now seeing a LOT of Tim Daly in Jack. To the point that I almost wish I could have seen Daly play Jack (since I like him more than the other two).
Frankenbuddha - Nov 17, 2007 5:52:39 pm PST #8454 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Well. Since I'm the only EST Torchwood watcher without a life on this Saturday night (or who didn't ahem), I'll just note:
Gwen just crossed a line I think Owen wouldn't, scarily enough. She'd probably blame Susie (who employed the same tactic), but she'd be wrong.
The final scene with Owen - might this mean he's not of this earth as well? Or did he just gain some existential knowledge of the critters in his grief? Or has he been playing with them himself during his spare time? Sadly, I fear this was an intriguing dangly bit that will be left just that.
Dana - Nov 17, 2007 5:58:58 pm PST #8455 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
This was my least favorite episode of the series, pretty much by far, so I don't have much to contribute. Except for that scene with Gwen and Rhys, which was so fantastically horrible, and which I adored.
quester - Nov 17, 2007 6:05:01 pm PST #8456 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
Dare I ask what about it killed the crush?
His character is pretty aweful, actually, all of the characters are pretty aweful except for the gay daughter.
TW: That last scene with Owen and the weevils was interesting. He gained some kind of insight into being an alpha male, I think.
Frankenbuddha - Nov 17, 2007 6:06:06 pm PST #8457 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
This was my least favorite episode of the series, pretty much by far, so I don't have much to contribute. Except for that scene with Gwen and Rhys, which was so fantastically horrible, and which I adored.
Huh. I thought it was a nice twist. I mean it was FIGHT CLUB, but I thought the whole idea that it might be an extortion/murder racket made a lot sense too, so it was interesting to see that turn out to be wrong. That scene you mention was great, though, and for the exact reasons you adored it.
Oh yeah, one other weird note. They blanked the "fuck" variations (no surprise), left in all the "shit" variations (as they have so far), but they blanked "tits" as well? WTF??!?!?
ETA I mean George "tits shouldn't even be on the list" Carlin would be appalled.
Dana - Nov 17, 2007 6:08:36 pm PST #8458 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
I don't really have a lot of patience for the whole "Woe for the modern man, who has no acceptable outlet to beat the shit out of other people" line of thought. So I spent a lot of the episode rolling my eyes.
Edit: Oh, and as I recall, this ep was written by Noel...Clarke? I forget his full name, but the guy who played Mickey on Doctor Who.
Still, the whole episode is worth it for the Gwen/Rhys scene. You really see how much Torchwood has changed her.
Frankenbuddha - Nov 17, 2007 6:15:38 pm PST #8459 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I don't really have a lot of patience for the whole "Woe for the modern man, who has no acceptable outlet to beat the shit out of other people" line of thought. So I spent a lot of the episode rolling my eyes.
Oh see - I thought the episode was showing that to be a bunch of horseshit, so we were definitely reading it different ways.
Among other things, I got the feeling that Owen can handle himself in a fight, and will occasionally lose it if pushed, but basically didn't buy into the ethos at all. I don't think he got in the cage to fight. No matter what the end of the episode means, I don't think fighting the weevil was what he had in mind.
quester - Nov 17, 2007 7:04:01 pm PST #8460 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
Now that I think about it, I think that Owen was going to pull the same routine in the cage that he did in the last scene, show his dominance over the weevil to further invalidate the fight-club mentality. Only, just as he was preparing, Jack et al barged in and blew it, leaving him vulnerable instead!
Does that make any kind of sense?
Theodosia - Nov 18, 2007 2:09:41 am PST #8461 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Owen is complicated and broken in not-easy-to-love ways, and Gorham works it for all its worth.
I didn't watch in real time, having gone to bed at 7PM, but I've seen the episode via somewhat illegal yet ethical means and look forward to revisiting it and seeing how I feel about it this time through.