Illyria: We cling to what is gone. Is there anything in this life but grief? Wesley: There's love. There's hope...for some. There's hope that you'll find something worthy...that your life will lead you to some joy...that after everything...you can still be surprised. Illyria: Is that enough? Is that enough to live on?

'Shells'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


quester - Oct 28, 2007 6:18:09 pm PDT #7964 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I iz very dum.


sumi - Oct 28, 2007 7:13:54 pm PDT #7965 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Plus, it's Jack. You know what his extra-curricular activities are going to be. . .


Liese S. - Oct 28, 2007 7:34:07 pm PDT #7966 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I love the bit where Jack's face changes.

Also, Ianto!

Also, !!!

Then for a while I was all, "Like, what kind of things? I ask merely for information..."

It was a good thing there was canon slash, though, because the rest of this episode was so freaking difficult.


sumi - Oct 28, 2007 7:38:33 pm PDT #7967 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Oddly, I felt like Gwen seemed more like the Gwen I liked in episode one rather than the one we'd seen more recently.


Vortex - Oct 28, 2007 8:08:02 pm PDT #7968 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I still don't like her. She does a lot of stupid shit that risks everyone.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 28, 2007 8:53:07 pm PDT #7969 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I do have to wonder if Jack's thought process when hiring her went something like,"Wow, this is the gold medal winner of the combo poor judgement/incompetent crisis management event. Maybe if she screws up badly enough, she'll be able to get even me killed!"

I do like that his "spend more time getting to know him" strategy toward integrating Ianto into the team apparently included the Biblical sense.


tavella - Oct 29, 2007 1:48:23 am PDT #7970 of 10001
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

I'm going back through Eureka season 2, and I've hit the eighth episode, "E=MC...?" and realizing that this was the probably the beginning of the end of a decent/o.k. sophmore season.

Someone else who thinks like me! I've seen a lot of people diss the whole second season, but I think that in some ways the first half of the season was an improvement on the first season. They seemed to get the mix of quirky and occasional splashes of darkness right, people seemed more settled into the characters... and then they introduced the twerp and it all went to hell.


Juliebird - Oct 29, 2007 3:24:54 am PDT #7971 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I mean, if you discount the horror that was "Relax", the less than stellar performance of Fargo's dad, eta and the complete waste of Taggart when he did show up, eta and the growing and inexplicable frigidness of Allison towards Carter, eta and the start of Carter not giving a crap about Allison, the first half showed so much promise. end addendums. And the issues I had with the darkness don't show up almost at all on my computer, and there's really freaking fabulous lighting that I hadn't appreciated because of all my griping about the muddy darkness. i eta Although I still question the sudden presence of the blue cave in the middle of GD (and the show) and it's repeated use.

It's just too bad that E=MC...? marked this point in my brain, because that was also the ep with the wonderful Dr. Emily Glenn who is so much more awesome than Cally, and who should absolutely be brought back next season in a recurring role. Even if it's just for the charm of her personality. I don't necessarily need to ship her and Carter, she was just a fun character in a refreshingly actually quirky way.

For me the first season is superior, but it wasn't until the second half of the second season that I began to really worry that my show had lost it's way irreparably.


Vortex - Oct 29, 2007 5:19:52 am PDT #7972 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I do have to wonder if Jack's thought process when hiring her went something like,"Wow, this is the gold medal winner of the combo poor judgement/incompetent crisis management event. Maybe if she screws up badly enough, she'll be able to get even me killed!"

at the time, he was probably thinking that she was smart enough to get into Torchwood, she didn't completely fuck up, and he's down a team member.

I mean, she very stupidly takes Susie out of Torchwood in secret, when they could have just as easily had her convince Jack, and then the lockdown happened. Still displaying her "heart" characteristic, but far less stupid.


§ ita § - Oct 29, 2007 5:24:48 am PDT #7973 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the growing and inexplicable frigidness of Allison towards Carter, eta and the start of Carter not giving a crap about Allison

I loved both these points. Perhaps because I didn't think their attraction in S1 was explicable at all. I thought it was done gently enough, with Stark being just pushy enough, just there enough to convince Allison he was all she needed--in combination with Jack at the start being too familiar. Very glad it went that way. Allison has a better relationship dynamic, and I love Jack and Nathan this way more too.