You turn on any of my crew, you turn on me.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Boxed Set, Vol. IV: It's always suicide-mission this, save-the-planet that.  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


JenP - Oct 21, 2007 4:55:47 am PDT #7727 of 10001

Also, and sorry for this, but look-s, voice- and, worst of all, teeth-wise, Jack is starting to look scarily like Tom Cruise to me (with perhaps a bit of Mark Harmon thrown in). Colo(u)r me disturbed.

Oh, this was absolutely a problem for me the first two eps that Capt. Jack appeared on Who. Especially because he was in uniform, so it reminded me of... oh, what's it called. The "You can't handle the truth!" movie. A Few Good Men? Anyway, yeah, I feel your pain. It went away for me, though.


WindSparrow - Oct 21, 2007 5:28:11 am PDT #7728 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Cruise looks scrawny in my head when standing next to Barrowman. Maybe it's the great coat. Barrowman takes me to a nice, beefed-up Cary Grant kinda place.


Cashmere - Oct 21, 2007 5:39:59 am PDT #7729 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Barrowman takes me to a nice, beefed-up Cary Grant kinda place.

Oh gods yes! A lot smoother. His easy sexuality with men and women just melt me.


Liese S. - Oct 21, 2007 7:52:50 am PDT #7730 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I think I might have to rant about this episode, but I dunno if I will or not. For some reason, the first round, I didn't identify with Toshiko at all. Not a whit. But this round, I'm overidentifying, and it's driving me batty.

I think I have something to say regarding casual racism and sexuality, but I think it may be too close to my chest for me to be able to articulate.


Vortex - Oct 21, 2007 1:03:20 pm PDT #7731 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

He was - I think that the whole being brought back from the dead has changed something essential in Jack.

he came back wrong?

I was annoyed with how easily Toshiko was manipulated into talking about her work and especially the bit about Jack keeping things from her.


Dana - Oct 21, 2007 1:14:19 pm PDT #7732 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

t waiting for Liese's rant


quester - Oct 21, 2007 3:06:30 pm PDT #7733 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Rant away, Liese! We're here for ya!


Fay - Oct 21, 2007 4:28:01 pm PDT #7734 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Go for it, Liese!

I confess I find Toshiko one of the least developed of the characters - she's pretty much a walking stereotype, most of the time, and her crush on Owen makes my head explode.

(But I did fancy the pants off Mary, and was thus vicariously glad Tosh got the hot alien girlfriend, albeit fleetingly. Just a pity she wasn't a nice, normal hot dyke with a jewellery fetish.)

Meanwhile, you're coming up on one of my favourite episodes. Although YMMV.


sumi - Oct 21, 2007 4:31:28 pm PDT #7735 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

You mean the next one? " Everybody Keeps Killing Suzie " (I think.)


Liese S. - Oct 21, 2007 4:38:41 pm PDT #7736 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Well, that's kinda why I'm dithering about the rant. Waffling. Because sometimes I feel like all I post about shows are criticisms of gender and race issues. I know it's television. I know that brilliant statements about society and life and philosophy aren't going to come pouring out of the shiny box. I'm not sure I would expect them to.

And I guess I'm glad there are now more minority depictions to get angry about. And I don't want to MinoritySue everybody where every depiction of a minority character must be one that is a shining example of humanity, whom everyone adores and/or wants to sleep with, unless I'm on about sexual politics, in which case everyone adores, but politely, from a respectful distance, and who is expert in their field and a mentor to small children with terminal illnesses, but with lovely, almond shaped eyes and glowing olive skin.

I just wish sometimes I didn't have to rant quite so much, you know?